Jean-Paul Goude

Yeah.

We were kinda making fun of the internet, but then Drew like knew all these people that were doing, everybody, they all had millions of followers, and I, "And then we'll do Kim Kardashian." So Jean-Paul Goude is one of my heroes.

Yes.

He's also known for asses, right? I mean, you've seen his book covers.

Yes.

So I was like, "Okay, we're gonna use Jean-Paul Goude.

We have to use Jean-Paul Goude, Mickey, for this.

This is the only person that can do this." So they called Jean-Paul Goude.

It's that crazy woman with the big hat, and the guy with the red..." You know.

Um, actually it was, strangely, the, the, the, the hair color thing was, uh, Jean-Paul Goude, who was, uh, Jo- Grace Jones' boyfriend.

We met him in, uh, uh, when we were working with Grace Jones in The Bahamas, and, uh, he said, "What we should do is take our stereotypes and amplify it like crazy." So, you know, he said, "Joe should have, should be the, the, the Black guy from Africa.

Alannah should have the, the kind of Rhine maiden blonde look." And therefore I had to be the redhead, you know? And, and he said, "You've gotta turn yourselves into cartoons." [laughs] And in a way he was right, because it, that had an enormously positive effect.

And so you're breaking barriers, which some people find unacceptable, and to this day a lot of people think the best bands are four white guys playing guitars.

There's just a lad culture which I wasn't really a part of.

You just mentioned that Jean-Paul Goude, and obviously then Grace Jones, but you were part of, was it My Jamaican Guy? It was one of Grace Jones' tracks, wasn't it?

That's right.