Jean Donaldson

That's policy, which is now on its fourth election of distilling down the promises that the parties are making.

Shortly, we're going to talk to Jean Donaldson from On The Fence.

But first, Shanti Mathias is a former staff writer for the spin-off, and in 2026, she's the editor of Policy.

I began by asking her to explain what you encounter when you plug policy.nz into your browser.

Thanks, Shanti.

Thanks so much, Toby.

Jean Donaldson is Senior Design Researcher for On The Fence.

I started by asking her, what is the problem On The Fence is trying to solve?