Jean de Villiers

A- and asking someone to smash you right there, which is why, like--

And even if someone comes in the side, right, comes in the side on your knee, you saw it with Jean de Villiers, countless players have blown their ACL out.

Mm.

Because the guy's going, "Well, I don't wanna smack him in the head here 'cause I'll get in trouble," and he's going round to the side a bit and, and blowing their knee out.

So spit it out.

So, so it was, it was Jean de Villiers, Jacques Fourie, Juan de Jongh, you know, Paul Bosch.

You know, like, these, like, titans of the game.

And then, and then after that was, like, Damian de Allende was, was coming through.

You turn up at a golf tournament at 8 o'clock in the morning.

Next thing you're sitting beside Smitty or Sculler, Berger or Jean de Villiers and suddenly you've got a big old... big old beer sitting in front of you.

And before you even tee off, you're a couple deep.

And then all these shots that they start doing, you know, in the name of being social and, you know, there's tents around the course with all these different products and relationships.

And we have Luke Jacobson on that number seven, and Pieter-Steph "Universal Soldier" du Toit.

[laughs] For me always, for me always one of the best things is when you listen to South African commentary, uh, and if Schalk Burger or, uh, Jean de Villiers speaks about Pieter-Steph du Toit, they always call him the Universal Soldier.

For me, one of the funniest things when it comes to broadcasting is when he's get called the Universal Soldier.

But I, I put Luke Jacobson's name into, into the hat for the seven jumper because I think-