Jay Stringer

Like it's, which was one of the reasons why we're trying to have this conversation is just how do we talk about it? What do we talk about? What do we ask? What's normal? What's not normal.

Um, so I don't know that there's, you know, I don't know what like percentages or numbers or anything as far as like, but I mean, to, to know what the overlap would be, but, most of the relationship fractures or, um, so like Jay Stringer calls them problematic sexual behaviors is, is kind of the industry term, which would be, um, you know, any, any, any behaviors would pornography, strip clubs, affairs, you know, any, anything kind of falls under that.

That's the, that's the blanket statement, um, are going to be from misguided, uh, hurts, wounds, education.

So what kind of the layman's terms that we use in the groups is treating a non-sexual issue with a sexual solution is how you help a guy who's a little bit in denial recognize that he has a problem or that it's an addiction.

They're going to have to pay Lockie Neal a lot.

They won't have to pay Jay Stringer much if he does end up there.

Zach Butters has said no.

So there's 1.8 that they've sort of budgeted for that they don't need.

Yeah.

I'm stealing the term from Jay Stringer, who's a great resource and has written an excellent book.

It's a faith-based.

So if you're okay with that, it's an excellent book.

And I'm here for you.

That's a great takeaway.

And then the book, Jay Stringer, Unwanted is the name of it.

That's an excellent resource for really what is ultimately to blame here.

Um, I'm excited on my sitting on my shelf right now.

I've got desire by Jay Stringer that I really like him.

He's fantastic.

Love all our neighbors by Tony Scarcello.

Yes.

And I think, I believe it was Jay Stringer in his book, Unwanted.

It may have been somewhere else that I heard this, but he said, we don't know how to suffer well.

Yeah.