Jasper

So her father's w- w- it was just a totally different person than Anne Smith.

Her father kinda came from middling class and more humble beginnings, but married into wealth and then did really well for himself, uh, business-wise, owning a bunch of lumber and timber mills down in Jasper, Florida until World War I and the shipping exigencies, uh, and blockades for that really ruined his businesses, and that's when they moved up to Clayton, Georgia, which is in the northeast corner of Georgia in the Appalachian Mountains, the Blue Ridge Mountains, just a beautiful area.

But he was a devout Methodist and very much, you know, kind of like a true believer of Jesus in that, you know, you teach the Golden Rule, you, you act the Golden Rule, you treat everyone equally, you treat everyone as a human being.

And so her six out of seven books was called Memory of a Large Christmas, and it describes one of their first years in Clayton when she was about 20 years old, and her father walked by the chain gang on his way home from one of his jobs.

Sure.

So this is, it's, it's horrible to think about now.

Um, but so in Jasper, Florida, when Lillian's about five or six years old, a Black family, a new Black family moves into Jasper, and one day Lillian hears all the, the older white ladies, you know, gathering together gossiping and saying that they don't think one of the children in that family is actually Black.

They think she's white.

So her father's, w- it was just a totally different person than Anne Smith.

Her father kind of came from middling class and more humble beginnings, but married into wealth and then did really well for himself, uh, business-wise, owning a bunch of lumber and timber mills down in Jasper, Florida until World War I and the shipping exigencies, uh, and blockades for that really ruined his businesses, and that's when they moved up to Clayton, Georgia, which is in the northeast corner of Georgia in the Appalachian Mountains, the Blue Ridge Mountains, just a beautiful area.

But he was a devout Methodist and very much, you know, kind of like a true believer of Jesus in that you, you teach the golden rule, you, you act the golden rule, you treat everyone equally, you treat everyone as a human being.

And so her six out of seven books was called Memory of a Large Christmas, and it describes one of their first years in Clayton when she was about 20 years old, and her father walked by the chain gang on his way home from one of his jobs.

Uh, can you tell us a little bit about that story?

Sure.

So this is, it's, it's horrible to think about now, um, but so in Jasper, Florida, when Lillian's about five or six years old, a Black family, a new Black family moves into Jasper, and one day Lillian hears all the, the older white ladies, you know, gathering together, gossiping and saying that they don't think one of the children in that family is actually Black.

They think she's white.

So her father's r- w- it was just a totally different person than Anne Smith.

Her father kinda came from middling class and more humble beginnings, but married into wealth and then did really well for himself, uh, business-wise, owning a bunch of lumber and timber mills down in Jasper, Florida until World War I and the shipping exigencies, uh, and blockades for that really ruined his businesses, and that's when they moved up to Clayton, Georgia, which is in the northeast corner of Georgia in the Appalachian Mountains, the Blue Ridge Mountains.

Just a beautiful area.

But he was a devout Methodist and very much, you know, kind of like a true believer of Jesus in that, you know, you teach the Golden Rule, you, you act the Golden Rule, you treat everyone equally, you treat everyone as a human being.

Sure.

So this is, it's, it's horrible to think about now.

Um, but so in Jasper, Florida, when Lillian's about five or six years old, a Black family, new Black family moves into Jasper.

And one day Lillian hears all the, the older white ladies, you know, gathering together, gossiping, and saying that they don't think one of the children in that family is actually Black.