Jason Vargas

Uh, I'm kinda surprised that Ryan Flank- Franklin's not in there.

Kinda surprised that, uh, Jason Vargas isn't in there by the same...

I wonder who had more WAR with the Mariners, Joel Pinero or Jason Vargas.

Vargo is my favorite bad player of all time.

He's, he holds an outsized place in baseball history because of, like, what he represented.

That was a pitcher, man.

Mike Leake was a pitcher.

So, uh, back in the napkin math, I'm seeing about eight, eight WAR for Jason Vargas, and let's see.

Well, number one, Noah Cameron.

I, I don't know if I can get there, um, but another big off-season question is, uh, can Noah Cameron carry a rotation? Like are we now viewing Noah Cameron as a guy that you give the ball to in the post-season? Not, not just a guy that helps you get through 162 that you give the ball to every fifth day, but a guy similar to what you had in '24 with Wacha, Lugo and Regans, or back in the championship years with, um, Jason Vargas in 2014, or an Edinson Vólquez in 2015.

Is that now how we're viewing Noah Cameron? To me, it's all about the pitching.

You know, you want Jack Cag Leone to get healthy.

I think that's what he can do.

I mean, Jason Vargas started game one of a playoff series, so he could be that guy to start game one because sometimes the rotation...

But

nobody ever doubted Vargas as being a part of a rotation that he could be in virtually any rotation out there.

Jason Vargas was a starting pitcher.

Noah Cameron is approaching.

I'm glad you brought up Vargas because that's kind of where I think he's settling in.

We got Cliff Lee.

Jason Vargas was pitching well for some reason.

Doug Pfister was Doug Pfistering.

Um, you know, so there was like exciting stuff happening.