And to know that that is there in Peoria is such a

gift.

Can you tell us something of the major relic that will be processed into mass?

Because the mortal remains were essentially just reduced to bones, then we were able to just take particular bones and to do so very reverently, following the instructions that are given by the Holy See.

But in this case, the choice for the major relic that was made during that session would be the mandible, or that would be the jawbone.

And so the thought was that she who spoke so eloquently and who taught and so in word and the way in which he proclaimed the gospel, that that jaw, the same, you know, from his very mouth, that would become the principal relic.

So later at the mass, then in a special reliquary that is prepared for this, that mandible will be presented as the primary relic.

So then the original declaration for the beatification was 2019, but there was a little bit of a pause put

on things.

Sure.

So for people in Ireland, and I know there's lots of U.S. news makes its way around the world.

I know many people pay attention.

But one part of the local news, which people might not be aware of, was some difficulties that the state of New York was creating at this time.

So the idea of abuse and, you know, The people investigating the church, that's not new.

One was his own personal consecration and dedication to Mary, which his mother did at his baptism, but also his daily holy hour.

So then the original declaration for the beatification was 2019, but there was a little bit of a pause put on

things.

Sure.

So for people in Ireland, and I know there's lots of U.S. news makes its way around the world.

I know many people pay attention.

But one part of the local news, which people might not be aware of, was some difficulties that the state of New York was creating at this time.

So the idea of abuse and, you know, The people investigating the church, that's not new.

But also his daily a holy hour

Why the jawbone of Fulton Sheen?

Well, I was present when the, uh, when the extraction of relics was taken, and it was Bishop Tolka that gave the direction.

He presided over that process.

The, because the body had, uh, the soft tissue had deteriorated, it essentially was just bones, and the mandible is loose.

It's not connected by anything but soft tissue.

So because it was available and we, you did not have to do anything to, um, harm the remains, we just...

It was lifted out.

Yeah.

Was he practiced? Had he had theater training? How did he come to be the Fulton Sheen of the chalkboard that we know?

Well, he did talk a little bit about in his grade school and high school, you know, kind of having some presentations or public speaking and things like that.

But I think it was just really a lot of natural talent.

He also he did practice.

And for him, he recognized how important it was for him to be practiced.

So he talked about putting in hours and hours and hours of practice for every one hour of his television program that he would put on.

He would rehearse and rehearse because he wanted to make sure that he had it entirely in his mind what he needed to say.

So Fulton Sheen, or anybody that goes on this course, so he dies, and then he has to—what are all the steps that would get him to where he is now, about to be beatified? What happens after death?

Tell us why that's important for us as Catholics.

Yeah.

In the, um, so if- going back all the way to the first century, um, when St. Peter was martyred, one of the things that people discovered when they started to do the excavations underneath St. Peter's, is that they found, they found the place where they believe Peter was buried, and then over that they realized they had built an altar or, or a, a trophy, and then, uh, eventually an altar, and then a church, and then a basilica.

Uh, but they also found that there were also other places around that.

There were other people buried nearby.

And so the idea is that people wanted to be close to the saints.

Mm-hmm.

Because, uh, after the beatification, well, we have to get going on a miracle for canonization, and we've got some candidates that we think actually may, may come through.

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Yeah.

So the the investigation itself has to be extremely thorough.

And that would be about the first six years of the cause.

And that was done by Monsignor Richard Sosman.

The reason why it took so long is because you have to hear witnesses, eyewitnesses from a large number of them from from every different aspect of Sheen's life.

So that meant traveling to Washington, D.C., where he taught, New York, where he was an auxiliary bishop, Rochester, where he was diocesan bishop, and even speaking to other people from other locations.

So can you please speak into that?

know 100 yeah

you catch up to it um identity means for me now than it than it ever has i suppose and i i i suppose um for me uh the crucial theology underneath that song is that the idea that I grew up with was that that we sin because we are willfully rebellious, and it's because we want to do what we want to do.

But most people I know don't want to sin.

It's something that we do against our will.

So that looks more like addiction.

Addiction to what? And so I thought about that a lot, about how...

the story of the curse in Genesis.

No,

know 100 yeah

you catch up to it um identity means for me now than it than it ever has i suppose and i i i suppose um for me uh the crucial theology underneath that song is that the idea that I grew up with was that that we sin because we are willfully rebellious, and it's because we want to do what we want to do.

But most people I know don't want to sin.

It's something that we do against our will.

So that looks more like addiction.

Addiction to what? And so I thought about that a lot, about how...

the story of the curse in Genesis.

No,

Yeah.

And he was really a vociferous, um, force, uh, to combat, uh, communism.

And he, he was someone who was so intelligent and so well-read, um, so it wasn't just simply that he knew the theology or had read the Bible, but he also was familiar with things like the Soviet Constitution and, you know, about Marx and Lenin and, uh, you know, some of the, uh, some of their writings as well.

Um, so he was someone that really knew communism and I think could critique it for what it was.

Um, communism wanted to set mankind free, and the, and mankind could only be free if man was liberated from God and from private property, and that's...

So part of communism and the reason why Sheen was so strong about it is because it's really trying to take man away from God, and so therefore it's, it's necessarily, um, then incompatible with being Christian.

But y- y- you might think, though, that that would mean that he was therefore, um, a conservative, uh, that he was on the right, and he would be pro-capitalist.

Yeah

Can you give us a little bit of a, I don't know, a reader's understanding of how a beatification even comes to be?

Yeah.

Well, this entire process is 47 years in the making.

So he died in 1979.

And it's taken all that period of time.

First, you have to start by just getting the cause started.

And so that meant that the people who were supporting the cause had to petition a bishop.

And then, of course, everything happening in St. Louis, Missouri on September the 24th.

Mm-hmm.

I say that because I think it might be a little surprising, uh, in this case.

Um, when, when Sheen's cause was proposed and, you know, there were, the people who were backing the Sheen cause, you know, this is mostly driven by, by interest among lay, lay faithful.

Um, so from 1979 on, I think that there was some difficulty getting traction with the cause because he was such a famous celebrity.

I think everyone perhaps had a little presumption that there was some pride there in, in Sheen's life.

Um, you know, that he was so successful, that he won an Em- Emmy, and then later on in life, uh, he became Bishop of Rochester.

And a lot of people, I think, look at that as, you know, not, not very successful.

Uh, so what, what does that mean, and what is next then? Does that mean he's a saint? You know, so just for people listening who might not be familiar.

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