Yeah

... to people, to people trying out there is, like, process goals, not outcome goals became, like, a religion to me when I was submitting to agents and editors and, you know, dealing with rejection for years and years and years, which is, like, you know, I couldn't control outcomes.

I can't say, "I'm gonna get an agent this year," because that's too far outside of my direct control if I wanna feel successful.

So process goals, I'm gonna submit to 20 agents this year, you know? I'm gonna write this many pages.

Or, you know, for me, with my brain, I, I'm a big believer in more than nothing.

Like, if I'm trying to write a book or something, it's more than nothing every day.

I have to visit it at least.

[laughs] Yeah, right