So Janine, do you want- maybe wanna speak to this idea of liminality? Like in the book you guys write, "The settings in which beach pajamas could be worn were somewhat indefinable." And I think this entire category is that.

Yeah.

I think beach pajamas are so unique in that way.

I- In most aspects, they're this liminal in-between garment.

They straddled sleepwear and sportswear, public and private dress, the masculine and the feminine, East and West, and there was a lot of confusion about how to categorize them initially.

They sort of had this amorphous identity that didn't really fit neatly into any single category.

And for that reason, they eschewed a lot of the social rules pertaining to different types of dress at the time, and the extremely specific occasions when women could wear pants at the time were essentially disrupted by this interloper.

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