Jane Tomkinson

But other managers, you know, are kind of standing up, lining up to take a kicking over this thing that clearly wasn't actually their fault.

You know, Zoe's interesting interview as well with the current chief exec at the Countess, Jane Tomkinson, and some of the other responses on our, you know, you alluded there and about some of the sort of response from our, from HSJ's readers is sort of saying, look, this is a day when we just need to just say sorry and take a kicking as NHS senior management.

even though in many cases we weren't anywhere near Chester.

And did we have re repeated these failings? I don't know.

The fact that births are up apparently, which I didn't realise, and that's really interesting.

And it's also helped that they're in a completely new kind of maternity and neonatal building.

They've built a new one, so it's kind of a new physical environment which also kind of helps especially if it's like women who have given birth there before and the other interesting bit the current Countess Chief Exec Jane Tomkinson she was also very pro the kind of recommendations on managers and a lot of what Thirlwall said was the fact that managers need to remember that patients are first patient care comes first, don't do anything that doesn't benefit patient care.

And, you know, some criticism was that it was quite obvious.

Serial failures at the hospital, no question.

Although Jane Tomkinson, Chief Executive Officer at the Counties of Chester Hospital NHS Foundation Trust said, our thoughts remain fully with all of the families and the babies who came to harm or died because of Lucy Letfie's crimes at the Counties of Chester Hospital in 2015 and 16.

We acknowledge the findings of the Third World Report and will approach its recommendations with openness and a firm commitment to build on the progress we've already made in improving our hospital's governance, safety, culture since that time.

Interesting.

The hospital is now under new management.

Responding to the Thirlwall report, its current CEO, Jane Tomkinson, said it will approach its recommendations with openness and a firm commitment to build on the progress we've already made in improving our hospital's governance, safety, and culture since that time, and acknowledges there's more to be done.

As well as aiming her fire at the hospital and recommending changes, Lady Justice Thirlwall had words about how the babies' families have been treated.

They were kept in the dark for years about what was happening, about the fact that there were concerns that their babies may have been deliberately harmed.