Jane Perlez

The world has never been closer to nuclear war.

I'm Jane Perlez, and this is Face Off Nuclear Anarchy, a series about the dangers of a world with growing nuclear arsenals.

Today on the show, the Cuban Missile Crisis, the 13 most dangerous days in history, and why they still matter.

Plus, we'll hear from Matthew Bunn of the Managing the Atom Project at Harvard's Belfer Center.

Thanks so much for listening to Face Off.

This project is made possible by the Belfer Center at the Harvard Kennedy School and the Managing the Atom Project.

Face Off is produced and reported by me, Jane Perlez.

Special guest, Matt Bunn of the Managing the Atom Project.

I think this is one of the things that gets lost in Washington, right? Like, there's a tendency to...

You know, we talked about this with Jane Perlez, right? About the shiny bauble beat, right?

Yeah.

And about how to, how to take these things with a, with a grain of salt and a little bit of caution.

In early September, he joined 75 community leaders, 60 CEOs, plus public officials such as Columbus Mayor Andy Ginther and Franklin County Commissioner Marilyn Brown for the Columbus Partnership's annual two-day retreat in Boston.

Hosted by the Harvard Kennedy School, who Epstein donated money to, the retreat featured big-picture planning, small group discussions, and high-profile guest speakers, including biographer Walter Isaac- Isaacson and New York Times Beijing bureau chief Jane Perlez.

Who cares? Who cares about any of those people? The conversations were spirited, enthusiastic, and challenging, and four attendees say Wexner was in the middl- middle of it, as always, listening intently, asking questions, learning alongside his fellow CEOs.

Wexner didn't speak about Epstein, nor did anyone ask him to.

This time, it's very real.

I'm Jane Perlez, and this is a brand new series of Face Off, Nuclear Anarchy.

This season, we're covering one of the most urgent dilemmas we face today, the escalating nuclear arms race.

Over the next eight episodes, we will take you behind the scenes to some of those key moments of the nuclear story to help shed light upon the present.

We'd love to know what you think, and those reviews help others find us too.

This project is made possible by the Belfer Center at the Harvard Kennedy School and the Managing the Atom Project.

Face-off is produced and reported by me, Jane Perlez.

Special guest, Matthew Bunn, faculty chair of the Managing the Atom Project.

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So is Peng Liyuan a soft power superweapon? Jane Perlez is former Beijing bureau chief for The New York Times, and she's been speaking to Rebecca Kasbi.

Well, I don't know about superweapon.

I think she's quite a power.

that?Well, I think President Trump is quite happy with it, but I'm not sure that even many of his senior officials are that happy with it.

And I think a lot of people who care and know about China are not very happy about it because it, it means that there's been very little progress on extremely tendentious issues that affect us all.

Jane Perlez, former Beijing bureau chief for The New York Times.

[upbeat music] And that's all from us for now.

She's a well-known singer in her own right, and here she is singing the song Everest at the annual Chinese New Year gala back in ninety-seven.

[singing] Well, I've been speaking to Jane Perlez, former Beijing bureau chief for The New York Times and co-host of the upcoming podcast, Face Off: Nuclear Anarchy, a series that traces the arc of nuclear danger.

So I asked her, is Mrs. Xi a soft power super weapon?

Well, I don't know about super weapon.

Well, I think President Trump is quite happy with it, but I'm not sure that even many of his senior officials are that happy with it.

And I think a lot of people who care and know about China are not very happy about it, because it, that means that there's been very little progress on extremely tendentious issues, uh, that affect us all.

Jane Perlez there, former Beijing bureau chief for The New York Times.

[upbeat jingle] Now, the Irish rock band U2 performed a bespoke concert for students at their old school today, Mount Temple Comprehensive in Dublin.

Our second topic is about Trump's meeting with the president of China, Xi Jinping, this week.

We will talk about what to expect with Jane Perlez, who is the former New York Times Beijing bureau chief and host of the podcast Face Off.

And our third topic is an election update, I hope mostly from John, thinking through whether we should consider this election to be all about distrust and what that means and what is happening, um, among Democrats and Republicans all over the country.

And finally, we'll have cocktail chatter, and our Slate Plus episode will be about where to send your kids to school.

Your first three videos are free at heygen.com/pod.

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We have Jane Perlez joining us.

She's the host of Face Off.