Jane Dodds

But as you say, in Wales, where at the last general election, they got one MP, they haven't been as successful as they have been in England.

And so what is the strategy here? Well, I thought it was really interesting in their Welsh leader, Jane Dodds' speech.

She was talking a lot about, she said the party needed to be more progressive.

She was talking a lot about social justice issues, a And I don't know about you, Fliss, but to me, her approach sounded quite different, as though they were trying in Wales to tap in a bit more maybe to Labour voters.

You know, they've talked a lot about at the end of Labour dominance in Wales.

Does Jane Dodds think she can tap into a bit of that vote? Is she trying to get a bit more of the green vote maybe, particularly looking towards Labour? students in the cities, because also when I spoke to Davey ahead of the conference, looking ahead to the Welsh local council elections next year, he was talking about them wanting to do well in places like Cardiff and Swansea.

So I got the sense from listening to her speech and especially one of Jane Dodds' policy proposals, she was talking about an AI wealth tax.

It seemed like she was kind of Maybe going a bit more for the young people and the votes on the left than perhaps is the strategy of the party in England.