Jamila Rizvi

but also, like, representation in magazines.

You know, you and I are the same age, and so when I was reading Dolly and Girlfriend, there were a lot of articles around, um, removing acne or removing dandruff-

Yes.

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The thing that really hit a sore point, though, for so many women was the conversation around ageism, basically the invisibility of women.

So we had Kylie Jones, but also Jamila Rizvi, who talked about this secret side door.

And the amount of engagement that we had on that were literally women saying, this is so true for me and my friends.

And

So something like, to do my best in the interview, could I have the questions a little in advance, a quieter space? It lets you see my actual thinking rather than my nerves.

They're just a few examples, Jamila, and there are probably a lot of others.

But what we want to highlight here is that you can turn what you might think is a disadvantage into an advantage by highlighting your capability.

Yeah, 100%.