It's, it's, it's what redundancy can we build in? What can we do as individuals, uh, to lessen the impact, and, and organizations, businesses, you know, to lessen the impact of, of the worst happening and, and the threats actually getting through the s- the security system?

No, ab-absolutely.

And, you know, there's a number of different ways to address that.

I think in, in terms of what can we do about it, I, I think for most individuals listening, it's about a few number of, small number of really simple steps.

We've talked about multi-factor authentication being one of the kind of most outsized impacts you can have.

And, and for most, most people, having a few practices like that, not reusing passwords, having multi-factor authentication is gonna really kind of move the dial.

Um, and then, and then I think, I think obviously a lot of this is gonna be done by kind of security organizations.

Um, as you say, the, the threat is real.