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Aug 24, 2026
It Takes More Discipline To Stop: Jamie Clements On Burnout, Breath And Why Rest Feels Like Risk
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Jamie ClementsGUEST
... go back, and then we can talk about some of the fundamentals of what it means to breathe, breathe well.

Jamie ClementsGUEST
So my mind tends to work in sort of diagrams, and, and the way that breath and breathwork has been laid out for me as a framework and the way that I teach it and approach it is really looking at the breath is the, is the title and kind of the main character.

Jamie ClementsGUEST
Within that we have breathwork, which is the Western, mostly Western formulation of the breath.

Jamie ClementsGUEST
It's kind of the packaging in which we put the breath in to make it palatable, marketable, sellable in a lot of cases.

Jamie ClementsGUEST
And so it's, okay, what is breathwork as a modality? Within that, we have this spectrum.

Jamie ClementsGUEST
Uh, I've always liked to speak about full spectrum breathwork, which is at one end we have the micro, which is the day-to-day.
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Simon ChardHOST
Um, but how can breathwork, I guess, help in those two ways of in acute moments of stress, but then also more in chronic stress, and how we hopefully build our resilience to that?
#259 Jamie Clements — How to Breathe Better: Stress Resilience, Altered States & Human Potential
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And then as it gets a little bit more technical, like what does that look like? What are the outcomes? What are the experiences? Can you walk us through the landscape?

Jamie ClementsGUEST
So I often speak to both this idea of the pyramid, but also this kind of spectrum.

Jamie ClementsGUEST
So spectrum flowing from micro at one end through to macro at the other end.

Jamie ClementsGUEST
And so, which gives me weird kind of flashbacks to studying economics and microeconomics and macroeconomics.
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What can someone who's never heard of this and they're listening and they're like, what's breath and consciousness and like journeys and like what? What's going on? Can you walk through that? Right.
