James Rouse

Right.

But the Inner Harbor is what they know, and, and it, it rang all over the country when Jim Rouse- Yeah ... first developed it back in 1980.

So here's what Dr. Basu said, Brian, to go back on what you said, 'cause this is the politics of it.

So we're talking about aesthetics, the politics of this, and Dr. Basu said, "Small developers don't get tax breaks.

And I had established a really good relationship with him.

I had also established a really good relationship with Jim Rouse, who's the most creative man I ever met.

I asked for an appointment with the governor, and I took Doc McClellan, who'd been on my first board of aldermen, with me.

And Schaefer showed up with four secretaries and five staff people and said, look, he'd been in office six or seven months.

Well, certainly, uh, doc McClellan, um, Certainly Governor Donald Schaefer.

Yeah, he gave the shakedown to the county.

And Jim Rouse, who's the most visionary person I ever knew and who was wonderful to me.

We became good friends as I was with Schaefer.

Don't change my circumstance, right? It's going to be hard.

And as Jasmine was saying earlier, we do have residents who, you know, came to this community for the vision of Jim Rouse and, you know, want to stay and don't necessarily want other people to participate in that vision.

And so we have work to do to bring the community along in this conversation as well.

We want affordable, quality homes for everybody in this community.

And it was it opened in either the late 60s, early 70s.

And it was built by James Rouse.

And he built it as a progressive city that would bring people together.

And I'm not I'm not sure.