So, let's go back to Michael.

1985, I had just graduated elementary school and I was looking forward to the summertime and I was even looking forward to going into junior high school after the summer.

I was living at 28063 East 11th Street and I remember walking out that screen door, Andy, and I made a bead line right into the street and I bumped into a friend of mine named Chano.

And I have the advantage, of course, now as an adult to reflect on that moment.

There was not much conversation between me and Chano.

There was more of just an understanding that it was time for a walk around the block.

Usually, you know, there's some kind of conversation that would be involved there, you know, like, Hey, what do you want to do? You know, Hey, let's go do this.

So do you think you would, you, you think you were taken? Do you have any recollection of what happened during the time you had been taken?