James Krenov

Oh, yeah.

Um, and one of their students, like, from, I think he graduated in, like, the early '90s, he started his own school with James Krenov, uh, in, in, um, Sunshine Coast, which is, like, right outside of Vancouver, British Columbia.

And so I applied to both, hoping to get into the College of the Redwoods because it was, like, so, so much cheaper.

Um, but I didn't get into that school, and I got in-

It's not a, it's not a super...

They're really into, like, cabinetry and CNC machines, which is great, um, if that's what you wanna do.

Um, but I was reading those James Krenov's books at that time after we had moved back and realized, like, I don't know how to do this kind of stuff.

I really wanna learn how to, you know, make, make stuff th- that looks like this.