What are the key aspects of this? There was a time in the

first half of the 1990s when there were two surgeons in the world doing MACE procedures enough or any kind of AFib surgery enough to accumulate a series.

And I was one and Patrick was the other.

So that's how I got, you know, we got to become such good colleagues and friends because we'd call, we'd say, we're seeing this problem.

You know, I had a problem with this.

You know, I had a problem, so forth.

And so as fate has it, I joined him out of retirement about 10 years ago here at Northwestern.

two.

And is it fair of me to test you and ask you what they all are? So, well, we

got silver for Best of Attraction, bronze for Best for Thrills, bronze for Halloween Event with Journey to Hell, and gold for Best Seaside Park in the North.

So, yeah, good start for halfway

You don't have to carry them very far.

No, we've got the office just upstairs.

We have them all on a wall.

We actually need to get a new wall now because we've filled one wall with them.

Fantastic.

And the theming is kind of based on a serpent, isn't it?

Yeah.

So, I mean, does the name have a literal English dictionary definition? I would say no, not prior to May 21st, 2026, but hopefully it does now.

Yeah.

But the origin of the story came from its location.

So it's located near to the River Caves.

That ride, obviously a long established ride here from the 30s, that ride from the family point of view, the Thompson family, the owners of the park, that was basically paying homage to their grandfather's travels.

So what can we expect in the next few years? There's more on the way, right?

Because you did that, we just got a super chat, and I'm taking it.

I feel bad for him.

That whole stream was so painful, not just because it was Opie and Ron, but because of that streaming issue he's got, those internet issues.

It was really difficult to watch this one.

I think Ron struggled to yes and with him as well because of it.

It was just terrible.

Is there anything different that Americans see in Opie that Brits don't? don't or vice versa there's anything that you guys pick up on

that we don't see i don't know to be honest i think really we're all kind of aware of just his ongoing mental decline that whole narcissistic thing where he just has to overcompensate and be obnoxious because he's trying to he's trying to be somebody else he's not comfortable with himself right And it's sad, really.

Uh-huh.

We set up a workshop, and people came and went.

You know, they spent a day or they, you know, some people spent all week.

And, and, uh, Ed Idleheart, who's a founder member, he said it was the best 10 days of his life.

Yeah

... as it's gone up.

It's, it's something about that, that thing of putting up a building together.

You're together, and you're putting up this structure, and this is what we want to recreate with this, a new building here, where this old one was.

And what's, what will people see at the County Show as opposed to the Spring Show then, James?

Yeah.

So the, at the Spring Show, as I mentioned, it's like countryside, um, kind of bringing together education entertainment, and it's more like animals to meet.

Whereas County Show is where the competitions happen.

Competitions in flowers, to cattle.

We have these great big marquees full of pigs, goats, even alpacas.

Um, cattle and sheep, and they're all competing for, like, the best kind of prize-winning animals in the county and the southwest region.

Right.