How does it feel to kind of know that, that these fan bases want you back on their teams right now and for you to rep their organization again?

I'm grateful, man, because I know, like, for me, it would just be like being homecoming for both of them, honestly.

And I know how it feels to already be there.

It's not nothing new to me, but when I get on the field or anything, it's going to feel like it's new.

But I'm just grateful for them to – Because they've had a lot of football players come through there.

And every year, there's a lot of people getting rotated.

And I'm just grateful for them to remember me as the player I was on both teams, on the Packers and the Lions.

mean?

How does it feel to kind of know that, that these fan bases want you back on their teams right now and for you to rep their organization again?

I'm grateful, man, because I know, like, for me, it would just be like being homecoming for both of them, honestly.

And I know how it feels to already be there.

It's not nothing new to me, but when I get on the field or anything, it's going to feel like it's new.

But I'm just grateful for them to – Because they've had a lot of football players come through there.

And every year, there's a lot of people getting rotated.

And I'm just grateful for them to remember me as the player I was on both teams, on the Packers and the Lions.

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So, um, around this time, you know, my neighborhood was being surveilled with choppers and being surveilled with, um, you know, military, you know, state-grade military tanks and things like that.

And it was supposed to be about, you know, enforcing this COVID curfew, but what it was really about was the insurgency that was happening within the city and within my neighborhood specifically around, you know, George Floyd and, you know, sort of, um, also the, uh, you know, state violence that we've been facing in Buffalo, um, for many years.

And so, like, I have to leave and come back to that environment and then go into the school environment and expect it to perform at a high level or, you know, performing at a high level and feeling, you know, just very, like, disconnected, you know? Um, so that was sort of a, uh, that was sort of a tough time for me.

Um, a- and I think what we discussed that we were gonna talk about today is, like, this sort of Zionist capture.

And I, I think in order to understand and contextualize that capture, um, you know, I've thought about this a lot over, you know, the years, um, in different ways, right? Um, you know, what are the systems that's doing the capturing and how they are able to do it? Um, and I don't have it fully formed yet, but a lot of it has to do with, you know, this thing I think about as, like, precarity, right? And so, um, I, I worked in trade jobs, you know, and things like that until I was 24 before I decided to go to, um, to go to college.

Um, but you know, like, we think of, like, the proletariat, the working class, we think of organized labor and things like that.

And they come together and try to, like, refuse these overtures.

Yeah.

I feel like we showed more off the field, too, and on the field.

But off the field, I feel like we just try to show what type of good representation of just Black men we wanted to be and just show the good res- representation of just men that we wanna be a football player.

So I feel like Aaron does a great job of just, like Aaron's the, I feel like Aaron was, he's not the first one, but he was most definitely the first in the league for me to hear say like, "Yes, sir.

No, no, sir.

Yes, ma'am.

No, ma'am," most of the time.

Has, has to be.