Jakob Blankenburg

And we also have a political voice with us today.

That's Jacob Blankenburg.

He's from the Social Democratic Party, SPD, which is also part of the governing coalition in Germany, and he is the SPD's spokesperson on environmental and climate policy.

So let's talk a bit about why politicians in Germany seem to be shying away from the topic a little bit.

Um, Jacob Blankenburg, is it hard to win elections with that topic nowadays?

Well, first of all, thanks for having me.

And, um, I think it was hard, uh, in the last, in the last years to argue about climate politics because for many people, climate policy was linked to something that they should not do and to politicians who s- to, who, who will say to, to the con- to their constituencies what they should do.

... to get out of this.