Uh, b- the biggest concern I have is actually if you go back to f- before free agency, uh, I was lockstep with Fitz on this.

this.My concern is not that Gainwell is a threat to the rushing lead at all.

I do not think Gainwell's going to lead this backfield.

My concern, and if Fitz's report that he's referencing continues, I will start moving Bucky back up.

Like, if that he's not being that involved in the run game.

My concern is the fit, and we've talked about this on other shows.

And the real thing here is that Kenneth Gainwell, with Zach Robinson coming in, who runs a stretch zone rushing scheme, Kenneth Gainwell has continued to rate out as one of the best in stretch zone running.

So yeah, I'm, I'm pretty out on Rico Dowdle at current cost.

Deebo is, uh, trying to make do with the sniping that happened, talk to us about those two wide receiver picks you had.

Well, I mean, I get the third rookie wide receiver that I think deserves to be on the same tier potentially.

We had Takeo in the fifth, Tyson go in the sixth, and then I get Mekhi Lemon at this point, which I know people are concerned that Jalen Hurts doesn't throw over the middle a lot.

But I mean, I've been spending my entire off-season saying he doesn't do it a lot, but he's done it one of the best in the leagues.

And maybe with more opportunities comes less efficiency.

But this offense is gonna change under Manion.

And yeah, there's a chance that Lemon doesn't even have the second best value and it's Dontayvion Wicks.

And then you went with Jayden Higgins, so talk about those two picks.

Give us the name.

Uh, it's Marvin Harrison, and because part of it is he's 71, he's barely in the sixth round at this point.

Because of the disappointment, let's be honest about it, is everything we thought about the limited, what we thought limited deficiencies of his game coming out of college have manifested themselves in the NFL, like not the most precise routes, uh, struggles to get bump off coverage sometimes, and that struggle for Kyler Murray to find him.

And let's be clear about that.

Kyler Murray's not with the team anymore.

And the height does matter to a degree.

Like for, like nobody, if the entire offensive line is standing up, no quarterback in the NFL can see over the offensive line because nobody is 6'8" playing quarterback.

How you finishing this off?

Can he hold up here?

Uh, he can.

I mean, like everybody's injury-prone until they're not, and everybody's healthy until they suddenly have an s- freak injury that we didn't see coming.

I mean, I think at this point there's a few, a handful of players that'd be like, you know what? At this point it's start- starting to be a little bit concerning.

We talked about Christian McCaffrey on the last podcast.

You get five, six, seven injuries to your career, that's one thing.

Scatabo's still young enough, and yes, we all talk about how frustrating is how he runs because he embraces contact versus avoid it.

He's my RB 40, so th- this better be good.

He probably needs to go lower.

[laughs] Yeah.

I like, I have him at 26, and that's basically my way of telling everybody that unless he's your wide receiver three, I don't wanna take that risk.

You know, maybe, you know, your makeup of your roster or whatever, he's your two and things are...

You, you get the point there.

Not you.

Everybody listening, like, understand where I'm trying to come from there is that I, I don't wanna take that risk as of today because, yeah, it was supposedly they didn't do a great job the first time around, and the second was more of a cleanup and make sure we get things right.

if he's full, if he's full bore Scatabo, do you raise him or do you ha- kind of have him at his max right now? And if he's not, obviously I think you lower him and then you start looking at Tyrone Tracy a little bit.

I, I understand why Jeanty's being drafted over him, but if you looked at overall upside and the situations that they're in, it feels like Hampton might have the higher ceiling.

I, I would agree.

And the thing is, I didn't see a very big gap between the two.

Similar to Bijan and Gibbs when they came out of college, I didn't think the gap was as pronounced as people were making it out to be, uh, with Jeanty and Hampton.

So I think that Hampton deserves to be in the conversation.

The only concern, and why I think that Hampton's good in this spot, I would take him in this spot because you're still buying potential return.

I think the people that are promoting to take Hampton as like the sixth, seventh running back off the board, now you're buying all the risk because there is still some risk.

Travis Stevens.

Uh, Jake, is it three for three on Zay Flowers?

No, I don't mind it as much as you guys do, but it really comes down to I'm trying to put myself in the 303 position and being like, "Yeah, DeVonta Smith, Tee Higgins, Egbuka." I would agree with you.

I would argue for them over him.

But, you know, if you feel like he has the slight edge, you're not gonna get him on the way back.

That's such a s- slow or a long way off to have your fourth round pick.

And so if you're thinking wide receiver there, like I just, I'm just trying to, like- Give team one a little bit of a pass there.

I don't hate as much as you guys.

Jake, who was your favorite pick in round four?

Yeah

... who might pop, by the way.

Like, I, I know we're sitting in this world where everybody's in the best shape of their lives, but we're also sitting here with the injury optimism part of the season where everybody's a Tra- or not Travis Kelce.

George Kittle, Patrick Mahomes.

You can go down the list.

Zach Charbonnet all of a sudden.

Like, everybody's gonna be healthy in week one.

Mm

[laughs]

... until he's dead at this point.

Like, I just, I, I understand everybody's concerned that, oh, it's gonna get to Derrick Henry, it's gonna get to Derrick Henry.

He had a decrease in rushing eff- efficiency last year.

The guy still averaged 5.2 yards per carry on 300 carries.

Like, it's not like ...

It's, it was a decrease by Derrick Henry's standards, like, let's be honest, and he still ran for 16 touchdowns, which, by the way, involved an offense that didn't really have 100% Lamar Jackson for most of the season.

What, uh, side are you gonna go with? Price or Toon?

[laughs]

... until he's dead at this point.

Like, I just, I, I understand everybody's concerned that, oh, it's gonna get to Derrick Henry, it's gonna get to Derrick Henry.

He had a decrease in rushing ef- efficiency last year.

The guy still averaged 5.2 yards per carry on 300 carries.

Like, it's not like...

It's, it was a decrease by Derrick Henry's standards.

What, uh, side are you gonna go with, Price or Tuton?

It feels like the Panthers have plans for him, and it looks like you have some plans for him as well.

Yeah.

I mean, the, the, the topic for this category was players to target, late round risers to target now.

And that's why I say this, like, again, this is gonna be the theme of a lot of my players, obviously.

But target him now, because the fantasy world, the dr- whatever you wanna be, the draft punt is, wh- whoever it is, they are seething at the mouth for this to happen.

Like, the...

You think Tuton excitement is through the roof? Let Coker start having some buzz this off-season even more.

So let's talk about that and why you think that might mean he's starting to maybe tick up a little bit for you and maybe everybody else, too.

He comes in as RB 15, but what say you on the love of the projections of Breece Hall this year?

I love seeing it because I also love the projections for Breece Hall, similar to my Judkins take, is that I would expect him to feel pretty high on Breece Hall.

Mostly because I've been on this very network and Bogman just wanted to laugh himself out of the chair when I said Geno Smith isn't the worst thing in the world in a super flex as your third quarterback.

And that's all I was suggesting to say the point that Geno Smith is getting lambasted for what went wrong last year when everybody's sitting there at the same time saying, "The Raiders did everything wrong." And we look at the Jets, and if Geno can just be a capable...

He doesn't even need to be middle of the pack quarterback, but a capable quarterback for this team and this offense where Breece Hall is still one of the better running backs on a per touch basis even with the miserable team he played for last year.

Miserable offense he played for.

The offensive line is still strong enough to hold them, unlike the concerns we might have for Judkins.

[laughs]

He comes in as RB 15, but what say you on the love of the projections of Breece Hall this year?

I love seeing it because I also love the projections for Breece Hall, similar to my Judkins take, is that I'm expecting to feel pretty high on Breece Hall.

Mostly because I've been on this very network and Bogman just wanted to laugh himself out of the chair when I said Geno Smith isn't the worst thing in the world in a Superflex as your third quarterback.

And that's all I was suggesting to say the point that Geno Smith is getting lambasted for what went wrong last year when everybody's sitting there at the same time saying, "The Raiders did everything wrong." And we look at the Jets, and if Geno can just be a capable, he doesn't even need to be middle of the pack quarterback, but a capable quarterback for this team and this offense where Breece Hall is still one of the better running backs on a per touch basis, even with the miserable team he played for last year.

Miserable offense he played for.

The offensive line is still strong enough to hold them, unlike the concerns we might have for Judkins.

But Breece Hall, 300 plus touches? Like, I had him very close to 300 and I was expecting, again, to be kind of the highest on Breece Hall.

[laughs]

So you've got the overall rank, you've got the positional rank and the projection, so run us through what you see and then why you picked Cam Ward as someone projections hate and what side you sit on.

So, uh, the funny thing is my projections are pretty close.

Uh, they're a little bit more aggressive in yards and touchdowns, but they're not far off.

But why I hate seeing this is because thinking about Cam Ward as a breakout second-year quarterback, I'm certainly a fan of the talent, and, you know, love the arm.

There was a reason that people were excited for him last year as like, "Hey, we take a second quarterback.

Rookies have done this before.

Maybe he surprises." And we saw flashes.

Let's talk about the projection and what you hate about this.

... over and over again that sometimes it takes these rookies a little bit longer to get going, and if you get six weeks into the season and that big rookie draft pick isn't working out, your team might be on the outside of the playoffs looking in.

Well, I think that's why Price deserves to be in the fringe RB2 conversation.

As somebody who does believe that he's going to lead this backfield from day one, I do think Wilson's still gonna be involved.

Let's make that clear.

It's still the Seahawks, even.

Like, whoever it was gonna be, it's still the Seahawks that, like, is very opposed to ever using a bell cow, no matter who seems to be there calling the shots.

Um, and I do think that Price is situated to not be a bell cow because there's the passing game concern.

So if he's not out there and it's all C-Rod, then he's gonna be moving up.

Walk me through what you've been thinking with these picks.

Yeah, it was the first, looks like the first team to take a third quarterback, and it mostly comes down to the fact that it was Daniel Jones.

And if he's healthy, we've seen, like, it's not pretty in real life, but in fantasy, QB one upside.

And then really went for that because I do have a Jackson Dart injury risk.

I do have Bo Nix being all over the map, and what if he doesn't break out and you're still the same situation? So it's because I didn't have an elite quarterback that I made that pick.

And what was given to the board is similar to you with the tight end situation.

What was on the board, it was, it was fine.

Uh, Jake, what about you? Any kind of overarching takeaways here?

Mm-hmm.

We talked about it a lot on the trade show, myself and Worm, that okay, he's, like, not delivering, like, these big spike weeks.

Part of that was 'cause Bryce Young is your quarterback.

Part of it was also we wanna run the ball between Chuba Hubbard and Rico Dowdle.

So it was kind of more of those circumstantial factors that I think held Tetairoa McMillan back.

But in the games where he actually got fed double digit targets, 18 fantasy points per game in half PPR.

So when they decided, "Okay, we're gonna let it rip a little bit here with T-Mac," I thought that he was a monster.

And, uh, speaking of a guy who used to reside in Pennsylvania, Jake, who do you have in this tier that you're, uh, either higher or lower on than consensus?

Did he really show you enough between that performance and the Giants' career and that body of work to warrant a big-time quarterback contract that could be a $40 million a deal, a year deal?

Yes.

[laughs] So there's two aspects of this that aren't mutually exclusive.

So on the one hand, no, Daniel Jones does not deserve $40 million.

On the other hand, we have to understand what the NFL is, and look at this as we're gonna be talking about today, and I'm sure this entire off-season.

People are talking about potentially trading for Andy Dalton.

Like, they, they are desperate for quarterbacks right now, and this is why.

Is there any chance you think that he gets traded off that franchise tag, or they're just sticking with him?

I feel attacked.

No, no, no, it's just that, like, I've done the same thing.

There's been various reasons where you could say, "You know what? Have we seen the best of C.J.

Stroud?" And I think that's a fair question.

So I'll give the different answer in this way, and say he reminds me of slightly more athletic Matt Ryan.

So Matt Ryan needed a freaking offense firing on all cylinders to be a top 10 quarterback, and it happened a few times.

But that's what you need with this type of quarterback, and that's why he's down here, is because even the best-case scenario so far for his career, and that was with three rushing touchdowns his rookie season, it was 18 fantasy points per game.

... 'cause he was playing with a broken leg.

[laughs]

No, no, no. It's just that, like, I've done the same thing.

There's been various reasons where you could say, "You know what? Have we seen the best of C.J.

Stroud?" And I think that's a fair question.

So I'll give the different answer in this way, and say he reminds me of slightly more athletic Matt Ryan.

So Matt Ryan needed a freaking offense firing on all cylinders to be a top 10 quarterback, and it happened a few times.

But that's what you need with this type of quarterback, and that's why he's down here, is because even the best-case scenario so far for his career, and that was with three rushing touchdowns his rookie season, it was 18 fantasy points per game.

Yeah.

[laughs]

This tier, this t- [laughing] honestly, not, not a bad number.

[laughs] Not a bad number, 'cause when I look at this tier, I see there are a lot of different scenarios and levers and things that I can pull where I can move Monange up, because, oh, well, this is gonna happen to the veterans in this group, between Aaron Jones, James Connor, you know, Chuba Hubbard, what's gonna happen with him? I guess I'm having trouble pinpointing exactly where I want him, because he's not the starter for his, his team, but maybe I'm getting hung up on that a little bit when it's DeAndre Swift.

Just 'cause, credit to Kalen Monange and how excellent he was last year.

Again, RB 29 overall.

He doesn't ever fumble.

Never fumbled at college, didn't fumble this year in his first year in the NFL.

So walk me through your takes on those two guys real quick.

But again, in terms of predictions, what do you think is a little bit more reasonable? Is it just a return to Indianapolis?

I think so, and especially when you look at the fact that i- they, with all tell- without telling us last year, they were like, "Hey, Anthony Richardson doesn't seem to be working." And I don't know that it's 100% Anthony Richardson, the player.

I mean, yeah, we would love to see him pass better, but the big thing is, is he hasn't made as many improvements as they wanted.

He also hasn't been able to stay healthy.

At some point, even...

Let's, like, just go back and kinda, like, change history and say he's got a 20% improvement.

He's looking like a league average passer.

Yeah

[chuckles]

...

Devon Achane.

So Gibbs, what I was about to say is that we know David Montgomery might not be back, which is already a plus in the column, and we already saw what that was like with DeM- David Montgomery essentially was getting phased out for much of this season, especially when we saw Dan Campbell take over from J- uh, Morton over there.

The thing I was gonna say is, if the rumors are true, and this is where Mike McDaniel goes to be the OC, Jahmyr Gibbs 101.

Like, leapfrogs Bijan Robinson.

I will put Gibbs 101 if Mike McDaniel ends up in Detroit.

[laughing]

Jake, what's your takeaway here for Tampa?

Injury domino effect.

I mean, a- and this was...

A- actually, when it comes to the Buccaneers, you wanna say, like, a house of cards, 'cause it was everything.

It was, to start the year, Chris Godwin wasn't ready for week one.

Hell, he wasn't even ready for week four.

Like, that was a big thing that we talked about in July.

Jake, what do you think of the Saints?

[chuckles]

... because it's 370, it's 400, it's 420.

Like, like, pick a damn number.

Like, like, I, I will say, look, if you've seen the recap video that I did with Joe and Pat, if you're watching this one, and if you're watching the first-round one that I'm gonna be doing with Joe and Erickson, it's gonna become tiresome for you as well.

So I'm just gonna like try and summarize the same thing we're gonna talk about on that show, too, is that, yes, what a shock that, you know, career year wasn't repeated with another career year.

Now, I'm also not just completely throwing aside the fact that there is risk involved, and this is why Saquon Barkley wasn't a top end of the first-round pick.

This is why Christian McCaffrey, even next year, shouldn't be a top of the first-round pick.

Uh, Jake, uh, I know Erickson alluded to this already, but you've got kind of the Commanders as a whole as a buy low opportunity here.