What was, you know, the feeling, what was the thought at the time and discuss what it was like to meet a guy that was so influential for you in your formative years?

Well, I mean, you've had John Edwards on this podcast, which was a great podcast, by the way.

I listened to it a couple of times.

John and I are buddies, you know, kind of behind the scenes.

And he's the guy who pulls the strings in the Collingwood events.

And he said, I'm going to bring in Ken Shamrock.

I said, very cool.

Could you elaborate a little bit on that for fans who may not know about that connection?