Yeah.

You know? Like, that's when I get, that's when you get to know each other.

That was what I loved about the book, was the reason that I, the reason that I... 'Cause you know, the, it's a series of books and this is the second one, and the reason I wanted to start with it is not just because I think it's the best book in the series, but also because the sex tells the story.

So it didn't, it never felt gratuitous to me.

The sex is character development.

The sex is what is moving this relationship forward.

And watching it change over time, um, I think for any of us that have been either in a long-term relationship or had that kind of relationship with somebody where that's how you know them, like a fuck buddy-

Mm.

How many A-list celebrities have been sliding into your DMs trying to get into season two?

I mean, not, not, not that many.

Uh, but you know, it's, it's happened.

H- what do you want to say to all the fans to make them rest assured season two's gonna be just as hot and steamy as season one?

Rest assured, season two's gonna be just as hot and steamy as season one.

[laughs] We're, we're not, you know, we're not gonna start not doing that.

But why don't you start, Jacob?

I mean, I think that there's...

I, I think that what the show didIn an, in a kind of an un-preachy, un-trying to teach you a lesson way is just present queer joy.

And I think that that's its soft power.

You know, that's the thing that I think people are surprised by and, and, you know, there are obviously...

Our queer lives are filled with trauma and, and I get that.

And we, I think we all know that.

Explain what you mean by that.