Could you talk about a scenario perhaps where it escapes from a data center or escapes from one of the major labs and then manages to copy itself around the world? So maybe just lay out explicitly what that scenario would look like.

I think it's really hard to lay out kind of very explicit detail scenarios because almost all-- any detail you add will not make, uh, uh, things less unlike- less likely.

Uh, but like we already see with existing, uh, AIs, uh, their kind of, uh, ability to cunningly escape various constraints, sandboxes.

I think there have been multiple cases, uh, where that has happened with existing AIs.

And so in some ways, I think it's dangerous to be dismissive, uh, about AIs.

"Oh, it's just a bunch of numbers in a computer and, and like, uh, there's nothing to worry about." Because if you think about it, uh, AI is currently really going for our cognitive abilities, and like AI is not going to get worse.

The main ways how we are keeping AI in, in check really is using the fact that it lacks certain cognitive abilities.

Yeah.