J. P. Moreland

That's why I laughed, because I thought about that.

And J.P. Moreland said it in his foreword, too.

He said, this book is not just another pro-life book.

And not to dismiss pro-life books, they're necessary.

So that's mistake number one on their part.

But yeah, eventually the free thinking argument that I've developed and really advanced along with J.P. Moreland became a significant focus of their video.

Now, like I said, I've debated Alex on this exact topic on the free thinking argument.

And, you know, in that debate, like I said, I went out of my way and I even thanked him because this is true.

So, yeah, I am not arguing for randomness here.

I deal with that.

J.P. Moreland and I deal with that.

in our paper and show why it doesn't work.

But I have a couple of principles that— I think are at play when I write or prepare.

Here's one that comes to mind right away, and that is I get from J.P. Moreland.

I could hear him saying structure, structure, structure, structure, structure, structure.

The most important thing detail of any communication is clarity, not cleverness, clarity, whether you're a writer or a speaker, because you're trying to communicate, convey some issue, some information, you're trying to persuade on some issue, and if you're not clear, you're not going to be effective.

I went after the expert witnesses who could help me sort through these issues.

J.P. Moreland, Biola University.

Mark Strauss, Bethel Seminary.

Craig Blomberg, Denver Seminary.

And I was teaching one of my classes and laying out, here's different schools of... apologetic thoughts.

So here's the evidential and classical school with luminaries like JP Moreland and, and John, uh, Josh McDowell and Sean McDowell and Kyle Strobel happened to be walking down the hall.

So I brought him into the classroom and, Hey, didn't your dad write a book about evidential apologetics? Anybody ever heard of it? And, uh, you know, here's presuppositional apologetics and here's this way of approaching it.

Um, But I was lecturing yesterday and saying, you know, I think there's another form, aside from the presuppositional evidential school, that I really see having a bright future, particularly in this Foucault-inspired day and age.

I went after the expert witnesses who could help me sort through these issues.

J.P. Moreland, Biola University.

Mark Strauss, Bethel Seminary.

Craig Blomberg, Denver Seminary.

And at the end of time, he will give you a new resurrection body so that all of you, both body and soul, are redeemed, are saved with God.

JP Moreland wrote a book arguing for this.

This is an idea that even Christian people are starting to move away from.

The idea that something that you can't even see is real.

And I'm, I'm grateful that I had a dad who invited questions, who was okay with doubt, wanted conversation with me.

But also people like J.P. Moreland, who made a distinction when I was at Biola as an undergrad going through a faith crisis, and he made the distinction that belief is not the same thing as certainty, that belief-

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... is to hold something with varying degrees of confidence.

I think he was more close to, like, JP.

JP Moreland, who also came on the podcast, another of Doug's colleagues.

But I, I'm, you know, I, I have to say that I, I saw William Lane Craig's comment about Doug on Facebook, and I, I did think it was pretty lame.

[laughs] I thought, great, J- uh, William Lane Craig's little in memoriam thing was the lamest thing I ever saw [laughs] he, that he wrote.