Ivan Menezes

And actually at the time, I don't know, I thought I was going to be fired.

And actually, our late great CEO, Ivan Menezes, got the Diageo exec together and got us as a project team onto the call and said to his exec colleagues, right, your job now is to protect the project team so that they can go away and do the work that they need to do so that we can come back with confidence.

And your job is just to make sure we are not going to launch this early.

We're going to wait until we get everything right.