
Irene Mihalic
Member of the German Bundestag
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Jul 22, 2026
Episode 5: Moment of Truth
27:50
27:58
28:19
28:27

Irene MihalicGUEST
At what point should we as the blue team have acted differently to prevent the corridor from being established in the first place? That's the key question.

Karolina DrüthenHOST
But she also raises a broader question: How realistic would such a surprise attack be outside a war game? In the real world, she argues, NATO would almost certainly have detected the movement of 12,000 Russian troops long before they crossed the border.

Irene MihalicGUEST
We would have had the full machinery of government behind us, the foreign office, the interior ministry, the chancellory, all with their agencies, advisors, and analysts.

Irene MihalicGUEST
They would have given us a much clearer picture of what was happening, and probably put us in a very different position to respond.
Episode 4: Europe Without America
34:52
34:57
35:06
35:13
35:52

Karolina DrüthenHOST
The interior minister is worried that the Kremlin's narrative is beginning to take hold.

Irene MihalicGUEST
If you look at how this appears from the outside, Russia agreed to a ceasefire in Ukraine.

Irene MihalicGUEST
It talks about NATO aggression and claims it has no choice but to protect civilian ships with military escorts.

Irene MihalicGUEST
It spreads stories about so-called Russophobic actions by the West, and the United States, NATO, and the European Union appear extremely restrained.

Peter TauberGUEST
When push comes to shove, the state will be there for you with firm, concrete, reliable measures that ensure people get through this crisis."
Episode 3: Emergency Powers
19:07
19:18
19:29

Karolina DrüthenHOST
The discussion then turns to another question: Would additional sanctions have any impact on Russia? The interior minister raises the issue with the chancellor.

Irene MihalicGUEST
We urgently need to discuss measures that could actually put pressure on Russia, and that brings me back to the question of frozen assets.

Peter TauberGUEST
I'm somewhat lacking the imagination as to what further sanctions we should come up with, given that the ones that we have put in place so far haven't yielded the desired effect.
Bonus episode: Ernstfall — What if Russia attacks NATO?
18:46
18:53
19:38
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18:35Carolina DrütonHOST
In the simulation, the role is played by Irene Mihalic, a member of parliament from the Green Party.

Irene MihalicGUEST
The cyber attack on the central IT provider of Germany's saving banks targets critical infrastructure.

Irene MihalicGUEST
In my view, we need to determine whether the server outage is affecting not only the online banking of millions of customers and roughly a third of ATMs, but also potentially our broader economic capacity.

Irene MihalicGUEST
Securing cash reserves also falls under police powers to prevent and divert danger, and that is not something the federal government can simply order on its own.
Episode 2: Invasion
16:57
17:04

Irene MihalicGUEST
I also want to point out the limits of what we can actually do at the federal level.

Irene MihalicGUEST
Yes, if the legal conditions are met, then we are talking about civil protection measures.
Episode 1: Deception
18:46
18:53
19:38
19:43

Irene MihalicGUEST
The cyber attack on the central IT provider of Germany's saving banks targets critical infrastructure.

Irene MihalicGUEST
In my view, we need to determine whether the server outage is affecting not only the online banking of millions of customers and roughly a third of ATMs, but also potentially our broader economic capacity.

Irene MihalicGUEST
Securing cash reserves also falls under police powers to prevent and avert danger.

Irene MihalicGUEST
And that is not something the federal government can simply order on its own.
