Ira Glass

You know everything about your character you need to know, but the pages aren't accomplishing it yet.

This is what Ira Glass refers to when he talks about the gap between your taste and your skill and needing to cross that gap when you're new to making art.

So as you're writing, if you find one of these gaps and drafting, if you find one of these gaps, one of these drafting imperfections, you can ask yourself if you need to fix it now or if you can fix it later.

So when I said before that writers will circle and circle and circle like the first three chapters, it might not be that anything is technically wrong or structurally wrong with those chapters.

OK, Robin's one.

What are the others? uh well like early on like it was interesting there was an interview with ira glass that sort of brought a lot of people from his world in uh ben stiller uh conan o'brien early on was a pretty big interview that first louis interview was pretty big there were two carlos mencia interviews where i sort of talked to him about stealing jokes that were pretty big and then it just started to build like that like but at that time people were just now recognizing the medium it's the biggest problem with podcasting is there's most people still don't listen to them or know what they are or how to get them.

That's true.

They don't.

I didn't even know.

I didn't know who Ira Glass was.

I had to look him up.

You get what I'm saying? So when I got my podcast distributed through WBEZ, I knew it was a good deal, but at the same time, I didn't know that's a big deal.

We're very familiar with this, like just sort of prompt based generation for ideas and, Um, now the taste part is like, are they good? And I think taste is something that can be innate, but it also can be trained.

What's that Ira Glass quote from way back when on, um, it's something about being a beginner.

And the thing is like, you might not have taste yet, but you can recognize it.

And that's sort of the development of taste is not knowing why something's good or bad or leans one way or another way.

I mean, the thing that I talk about in like the first part of my course and I say to anybody who comes to me for consulting is you have to get clear on your why.

And I use this quote from Ira Glass where he talks about how a lot of creatives early in their career, there's this gap between their talent and their taste.

And you want to make great things, but like everything you're making is shit.

And a lot of people give up at that point because, and, and, or now they turn to AI, right? Because they're like, well, the AI can make it in two seconds.

And that's where you were.

Does he name drop his cousin Ira Glass? No,

not yet.

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