Invisibilia

Like did you know we basically have a traumatized baby to thank for exposure therapy? I'll explain more in a moment, but first, cognitive restructuring, how to do it and its origin story and the question that changed psychology forever.

Yeah, so in the late 1960s, there was this psychiatrist, Aaron Beck, and he was in session with this woman, and I, I should just give credit to, uh, the podcast Invisibilia for this story.

Hmm.

They did a really good job on this.

Today, she co-hosts Radiolab with Lutif Nasser.

She also co-founded NPR's Invisibilia, a series about the unseen forces that shape how we behave.

And most recently, she created Terrestrials, a nature podcast for kids and families.

Her book, Why Fish Don't Exist, is an international bestseller.

They can think of me as annoying if it's helping me humanize them and understand what they actually care about.

So that's a lot of it, too, is just like, they can think I'm dumb, they can think I'm annoying, they can think I'm nosy.

And, and again, that's something I do say, like, because I, especially with Invisibilia, but I have trended toward, not necessarily on the kids show, but I've trended toward, like, very emotional.

Like, I am often find myself in a very emotional interview.

Yeah.

"They're not gonna be up against, like, Invisibilia sadly, but that's fine."

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But it's been a, it's been a good network fit.

And kind of the silver lining or the golden nugget in all of this is this idea of poop friends.

And NPR ran an episode of Invisibilia a few years ago, all about this concept of everyone has, and as you described on your trip to Iceland, everyone has a group that is their closest, most inner circle of people.

And that is the group that they are comfortable talking about their bowel movements with.

Can we call it the poop group?