International Commission of Jurists

This was the International Bar Association of Human Rights Institute.

the Bar of Human Rights of England and Wales, the East Africa Law Society, the International Commission of Jurists, the Law Society of England and Wales, the Pan-African Lawyers, and number seven, Lawyers for Lawyers, all of them a Netherlands grouping.

All of them, these seven law society groupings, put it on record.

that what had happened in Zambia was unacceptable in a democracy.

And Specializing in the field of business and human rights, so a lot about looking at business accountability for human rights violations, but also the business responsibilities around human rights due diligence throughout their supply chains, meaningful consultation with the communities impacted by their work.

um just i guess like the the biggest stop i had on that tourism in human rights was um I was the international legal advisor for the International Commission of Jurists in Myanmar for four and a half years in the mid teens from 2014 to 2018, where there was a huge influx of international investment, but into a very, very weak public legal system.

So There was a really interesting time to look at that kind of work.

I looked at it and were focused on land grabbing that was happening at the time in all around the country, but also in access to justice, access to remedy, etc.

Well, let's bring our guests into the show.

We have joining us from New York, Reid Brodie, an international human rights lawyer and member of the International Commission of Jurists.

He participated in the 1998 Rome Conference that created the ICC and has helped prosecute some of the world's high-profile defendants.

In Rome, Natalie Tocci, professor of practice at Johns Hopkins SAIS Europe and a former special advisor to EU high representatives Federica Mogherini and Josep Borrell.

You know, when the discussions about some sort of, wouldn't have the name the ICC, but w- discussions started about an international war crimes tribunal as far back as 1927.

The International Commission of Jurists were put together, and since '27 up until 1996, when the treaty was finally signed, ratified in the, in the, the United States, uh, it went up for ratification in '98, and then we had a problem.

Senator Jesse Helms would not allow this to go forward to be voted on.

So we, for our own political reasons, pulled out of the discussions about ratification.

And when the court finally, in the, in the, in, in the Netanyahu and Gallant warrants, um, you know, issued a, issued, uh, showed that it could be even-handed, that is when the United States moved to strangle this court.

Reid Brody, war crimes prosecutor, member of the International Commission of Jurists.

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