Institute of Real Estate Management

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Institute of Real Estate Management.

Yeah.

Yep.

I worked there for about nine years and a few other companies.

I got my ARM designation and CPM designations from Irem and then I started my own home building and development company and And from 2000 to 2007 or 8, I was a developer and home builder and an investor.

And then the crash of 07 put me out of business, and I was blessed to be hired by the Maryland Multi-Housing Association in 2009, and I've been running the association ever since.

Wow.

Oh, yes, and I'll tell you, that's when I learned how to run an association.

I, I worked for MTHLA, BOMA, Building Owners and Managers Association, and IREM, the Institute of Real Estate Management.

Wow.

So they have local chapters here, just like MTHLA.

But as a hotelier, you may also be a member of OH in LA, the Oklahoma Hotel and Lodging Association, which then thereby you have membership in the American Hotel and Lodging Associ-

Mm-hmm

... same with BOMA and IREM.

So they're local chapters, but the BOMA group that I, um, was their director for th-three years, they would send me to Washington, DC once a year for training on running an association.

When I was at Old Mutuals, I spent a lot of time in the library reading about properties and all of that.

I stumbled across a journal called the Journal for Property Managers, which comes quarterly from the Institute of Real Estate Management, headquartered in Chicago.

And I used to get a lot of education from it, and I then realized that there is a designation for property managers called CPM, Certified Property Manager, the designation that I've got here.

And you need to... complete a theory part and then a practical part.