Ingrid Michaelson

And actually,

I was going to mention that we close with Ingrid Michaelson's Auld Lang Syne.

And she, her Christmas album, Ingrid Michaelson's Christmas album is amazing.

And this is on that as well.

Everything Ingrid Michaelson does is amazing.

I'm just saying.

Turn to Stone is one of my favorite songs of all time.

Boots goes over and hugs Alice.

Go to Regina Spektor's B-sides.

Same with Ingrid Michaelson, like extremely talented, but I only ever heard her music in a caribou coffee in the Midwest.

You know, weirdly enough, I always heard Kate Bush's Running Up That Hill at the pharmacy getting my antidepressants.

Yeah.

yeah although that one was like That one was less about like the grief and also about the part of me that is always just mental health, just like on the edge.

And I reached out to my friend Ingrid Michaelson and I had started that song and I was like, do you want to help me finish this? Cause I was just stuck and nobody's better at writing these kinds of like cheeky songs than she is.

So, um, Yeah.

It's like I love the idea of having a song that people would be able to sing to themselves when they're really on the edge that can bring them back with a little bit of humor and delight.

Yeah.

I have heard the story many times about how you got Milk Carton Kids to sing New York Lonely Boy for the show.

Was it the same thing with Ingrid Michaelson and New York City Moms and also her cameo, which is so good? So incredible.

Cameo came later, but yes, it was like, you know, the music department who Jeff Richman, Tina's husband, who's...

Now I released an EP that I recorded out in LA, uh, with Bill Leffler.

He did a lot of stuff like Ingrid Michaelson and people like that.

That was a really cool experience to go out there and, and record that.

And then I took a break for a while.

But I was in Colorado at the time and had gone to sort of, like, what I had been told was, like, the holy grail of fertility clinics.

So I was out there, and I had a good friend who was helping me with some of my, like, transportation stuff, Edie Carey, who's a good friend of mine who lives out in Colorado, and she was going to Andrea's show.

And she's like, "I have tickets to this thing.

Are you wanna...

Ugh.

I feel like it's making me think about what Andrea says about to die is to be reincarnated in the people you love.

So I lost a, a dear friend in 2020.

Chad Joseph was my first close friend to pass away, and then a few years later, Gavin Creel, who was also a, a very close friend of mine, passed away.

It was all like flashback then.

I remember I was really excited because I had music on it and I had Ingrid Michaelson songs and I'd reached out and she'd give me permission to use them.

So I felt really special.

But I think the popularity really for me was because I was first, I was always willing to help people.

Now, the engineering and mixing is Buckley Miller, who has he is a Nashville guy.

He's done Lady A. He's done some Ingrid Michaelson, some Kelly Clarkson and a bunch of other people.

There

was an adult in the room at some point.

That scares me sometimes." She says she looks up to Mariska Hargitay, the Law & Order: SVU actress.

She's one of the highest paid actresses in general, women or men, on television, and she's been playing this very strong char- female character for what, 15 years? Swift once gave Hargitay and her husband a ride home from an Ingrid Michaelson concert.

She later named her cat Olivia Benson.

Who cares? Okay, this is unnecessary detail.