Indonesian State Intelligence Agency

But what else do we see about his appointments in defence and military in terms of his ability to build and cultivate a relationship as a politician with younger post-reformacy generations of military officers who have presumably gone through very different education structures than what he himself went through? you know back in the 1970s.

You're right to point out that his pedigree coming out of special forces is something worth looking at and that's partly because the nature of special forces is that you're operating in very small trusted teams and that's very different relationship from broader infantry and different mindset to different kinds of army officers as well and you see that replicated in him keeping his team very close particularly those he's come up through his military career with people like his Defense Minister Shafri Shamsuddin, other senior retired COPASAS members like Mohammad Harindra, who was the head of the State Intelligence Agency, but then also in junior officers who he's kept around him, Sugiyona, who's currently serving as foreign minister, his minister has been very close to Prabowo, and of course, cabinet secretary.

Teddy Ujaya as well, who's a former Cabasa's officer.

But