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Indian Child Welfare Act

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Oct 20, 2026

Louise BrowneHOST
15:57
Um, finally, well, as you should read all about the children, cause it's just massive what goes on, but there was finally somebody who Lee Cook was a tireless advocate for the indigenous youth.
Louise BrowneHOST
16:10
And that's kind of how they eventually got to the passage of the Indian Child Welfare Act in 1978, which is still ongoing.
Louise BrowneHOST
16:17
We talked to Chris Stearns on our podcast.
Sarah ReinhardtHOST
16:20
Well, it went back up before the Supreme Court a couple of years ago and they kept it.
Kelly DriscollGUEST
6:53
And it just, you know, I was looking for something different.
Kelly DriscollGUEST
6:55
At the same time, I had been doing some public defense contract work, challenging a statute that said, ICWA families, Native families can't access an emergency protective service hearing.
Kelly DriscollGUEST
7:11
So that's the hearing that we have within five days of a
speaker_1UNKNOWN
7:14
removal.
Kelly DriscollGUEST
8:04
And now I have the awesome privilege of leading our Family Defense Bureau.
Hunter ParnellHOST
8:08
Fantastic.
Hunter ParnellHOST
8:09
And we are going to talk more about ICWA here in a little bit for people who are unfamiliar with it.
Hunter ParnellHOST
8:16
And correct me if I get the names wrong, but it's the Indian Child Welfare Act.
Ruth GreenwoodHOST
8:11
You know, I have done cases in the South, most recently a trial [laughs] in the last few months down in Mississippi, where there are explicit statements of racism from officials on the record, and that's the kind of stuff that they don't make their way all the way up to the Supreme Court, or if they do, the Supreme Court ignores them, right? So, you know, you can look back at 1901 and be horrified by what Alfred Deakin was saying, and I am horrified, but people today still continue this stuff.
Ruth GreenwoodHOST
8:39
In the US, um, native children were taken from their parents, and it wasn't until 1978 with the Indian Child Welfare Act where they didn't stop the program.
Ruth GreenwoodHOST
8:49
They just allowed parents to say they didn't want their kids to be taken away.
Colin ColeHOST
8:53
Yeah.
Melanie YazzieHOST
4:51
I just felt like Fancy Dance handled the material that Wind River handles so much better.
Melanie YazzieHOST
4:57
It was so good the way that it handled like MMIW and ICWA and violence against Native women and just like the struggles that Native people go through.
Melanie YazzieHOST
5:06
And it's a story that's very similar to the story, like the premise of Wind River.
Melanie YazzieHOST
5:12
But like the way in which it's handled and narrated is clearly from a Native woman's perspective, which I deeply appreciated about this movie.

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Melanie YazzieHOST
17:30
taking Roki away and then issuing this massive manhunt for her because she supposedly kidnapped Jax from this presumably upstanding white family of the grandparents.
Melanie YazzieHOST
17:42
And so the way that the film is written and all of these different characters, it shows you rather than tells you, I think, the jurisdictional maze that surrounds these issues.
Melanie YazzieHOST
17:55
And it interlaces, I think, MMIW with ICWA, with structural violence and structural racism, I think, so brilliantly through the different characters themselves.
Melanie YazzieHOST
18:10
And I really appreciated that about this film.
John KellyHOST
11:52
I do think they'll get it done And live sometime before the holidays.
John KellyHOST
11:56
It has been three years since the Supreme Court delivered a fairly resounding 7-2 opinion upholding the Indian Child Welfare Act and what was known as the Brackeen case, which we covered at length.
John KellyHOST
12:08
I'll drop a link to all that coverage in our show notes for the podcast.
John KellyHOST
12:12
But in so doing, the court in that 7-2 decision in Brackeen did not really take on the question of whether the law is a race-based law and violates the 14th Amendment.
John KellyHOST
12:54
They declined to grant what is called a writ of certiorari or cert in the case, which is a fancy way of just saying they are going to pass on it.
John KellyHOST
13:02
So this will not be another cycle of an ICWA challenge in the Supreme Court, at least for now.
John KellyHOST
13:10
And while we're on the subject of the Indian Child Welfare Act, let me start the imprint recommendations list here with indigenous reporter Nancy Marie Spears' recent story on the spread of ICWA courts around the country.
John KellyHOST
13:23
There are now 25 specialized ICWA courts in 10 states.
James SivaGUEST
49:45
We were part of the Cabazon decision back in the late '80s, early '90s that led to the creation of the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act.
James SivaGUEST
49:53
And then again, we returned as one of the five intervening tribes for the Brackeen case, which was all about ICWA.
James SivaGUEST
50:01
And so we, we understand exactly how big and fearsome that kind of setting can be.
James SivaGUEST
50:10
But, you know, we were successful both times, and so we have a two and O record.
Aaron ThomasHOST
0:57
Let's get right into today's news.
Aaron ThomasHOST
0:59
We're gonna head to the highest court in the United States, the Supreme Court declining an ICWA challenge.
Aaron ThomasHOST
1:05
According to Native News Online, on October 5th, the United States Supreme Court declined to take up a fresh challenge targeting the constitutionality of the Indian Child Welfare Act, or ICWA.
Aaron ThomasHOST
1:16
Opponents of the law argued that ICWA's placement preferences infringe upon equal protection principles.
Aaron ThomasHOST
1:22
But tribal advocates and federal defenders pushed back fiercely, maintaining that tribal nations are political entities and sovereign, and they're not racial groups.
Aaron ThomasHOST
1:32
Now, why it matters to tribes, it secures the legal status quo, ensuring that native children remain connected to their extended families, communities, and tribal cultures rather than being adopted into native homes without tribal input.
Linford D. FisherGUEST
42:49
And there's a series of acts that are passed by Congress that really are intended to return sovereignty back to Native nations.
Linford D. FisherGUEST
42:55
One of them, which I focus on in the book, is the Indian Child Welfare Act, because this returns the right of Native communities to determine where children who are considered to be orphans or not in great family situations, where they get placed.
Linford D. FisherGUEST
43:11
And so before that point, tens of thousands of Native children have been placed in adoptive situations or foster homes.
Linford D. FisherGUEST
43:19
And after nineteen seventy-eight, first preference has to go to Native communities where those children are placed.
John CainHOST
6:29
The Inner Child Welfare Act, which was a law that was supposed to put a nail in the coffin of not just the residential schools, the boarding schools, but also the whole policy of ripping kids away and putting them in foster care or adopting them out to non-natives to, again, allow that assimilation to tactic to be employed.
John CainHOST
6:49
So the Indian Child Welfare Act basically created federal guidelines to state child protective services, state child CPS.
John CainHOST
6:58
And what it said is that if you, and now there'll still be the ones charged with the authority to remove a child from a native home, but if you remove a native child, you have to put a priority on placing them in a native home.
John CainHOST
7:11
Now, I mean, the law is just so broad that it doesn't even require that a Native child be placed in a home from his home community or his own nation.
John CainHOST
10:39
So this effort to assimilate us using the churches, using English language, using the stripping away of anything that would identify us, it was pretty effective.
John CainHOST
10:51
It wasn't 100% effective, but it was pretty darn effective.
John CainHOST
10:54
And so when you come out of that era, and then you have the Indian Child Welfare Act, you have the Civil Rights Act, and you have all these things that happen in the United States that may or may not have been implemented specifically to us, there ends up being a question, who are we? Are we Americans? Are we US citizens? Well, Declaring we were doesn't necessarily mean that we were.
John CainHOST
11:24
I mean, and again, I've said this before on the show, we were not U.S. citizens under the U.S. Constitution.
Matt McNeilHOST
1:25
Well, actually, it didn't come down from the Supreme Court.
Matt McNeilHOST
1:27
They refused to, uh, revisit the 1978 Indian Child Welfare Act.
Matt McNeilHOST
1:31
I wanted to talk with him a little bit about that.
Matt McNeilHOST
1:33
Brett is here with us today.

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Matt McNeilHOST
46:43
This is something that is important, and we still have yet to come to that reckoning of, uh, talking about this, these issues.
Matt McNeilHOST
46:49
And, and there is particularly one issue, and this is a story I got at this from the Minnesota Reformer.
Matt McNeilHOST
46:54
The U.S. Supreme Court will not take up the most recent attempt to dismantle the seven- uh, 1978 Indian Child Welfare Act, according to a docket.
Matt McNeilHOST
47:02
The case involves a Red Lake Nation twins who were placed in temporary foster placement four years ago.

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