Independent record label

... first track.

Let's listen to, originally, uh, uh, their, like, as you said, their first single, uh, first single, uh, released on Hip-Tone in-

Yeah

... 1981, uh, before they signed to IRS.

[laughs] But, uh, he said about this one, he said, in, uh, this was like a early 1993 interview, so it was before they were, uh, w- I guess when they were just starting to record this, and he said, "I've got to write words for Radio Free Europe, because we're going to re-record it for the album, and it still doesn't have a second or third verse." [laughs]

[laughs] You know, I g- I have the original Hip- ...

I have an amazing story about the original Hip-Tone single.

You wanna hear it?

Yeah.

Oh, and supporting independent labels, I find to be a little bit more fun, honestly.

Yeah, absolutely.

Oh, no, you...