Illuminati

Yeah, okay.

You know, it would have been cool to kind of see a little bit more of him being a leader with the Illuminati, the Illuminate.

That would have been kind of cool because I think that's the only real team-up setting that we've necessarily seen him in.

But I mean, I want a Midnight Suns movie to happen because we got Ghost Rider, we got Moon Knight, we got Midnight Werewolf, we got all the boys, even Elsa Bloodstone, you know, all of the fam is just sitting there chilling, waiting to be used.

Yeah, this issue, it kind of it bounces back and forth between two parts of the storyline.

One is the Illuminati meeting with the builders of the universe that's incursioning with ours at the moment.

So

builders from a neighboring universe, basically.

And then on the other side, we get the Black Order invading Wakanda while Black Panther is gone.

He's off dealing with this.

And stumbling upon the Illuminati's base in the Necropolis.

Well, they also are still dealing with the fall of Adaline in New York as well.

You need someone who's got an Asgardian in it, whether that's Thor, Beta Ray Bill, Valkyrie, or just someone, you know? It doesn't have to be those exact categories.

I'm kind of talking about the Illuminati a little bit now.

But you need Avengers who are just like, they normally don't play well with others, and they're kind of just thrown in this gutter together, and they actually end up working quite well.

You need a group of people that lives up to Nick Fury's quote from the 2012 film, there was an idea.

And I think I agree with you.

I, this leaves me wondering if we're going to have an Illuminati and if that Illuminati, you know, obviously Charles Xavier in the comics, I should add.

Okay.

So the Illuminati in the comics is a collection of the most powerful men in Yep.

Male heroes.

We got to have the conversation.

Black Bolt, who else was on there? I

think that there's been loads of different teams.

And there's a lot of things in here that I really, really like.

And it always comes back to the character stuff with the Illuminati.

I mean, they're really just the heartbeat of this book.

And here, you know, in the last volume, we had some really deep character moments between Black Panther and Namor.

It's, it's now like a different thing.

And I'm like, I kind of wish they kept that going by the, by once we get to the middle of this book, there's like three different Avengers teams, arguably four different Avengers team that come together.

Um, But, like we've said, the Illuminati are really the most interesting.

And then you have that Sunspot and Hyperion and Thor team that are really just kind of like, wait, what are

So they're doing what they can.

So, bit of a flashback, the Illuminati, Reed, Black Panther, Captain America, Black Bolt, Namor, Doctor Strange, and Tony Stark, they discovered the universes were colliding, which is bad, and they tried everything, the difficult, the impossible, even the silly, and they were left with destroying the other worlds.

But no, it didn't work.

In fact, the Illuminati broke up.

And in the absence of heroes who wanted to kill innocent people, Namor got a cabal together who did not have pesky morals.

People like Thanos, Maximus, the Black Swan, and Terax.

We don't have a parent here.

Val's running this and she's with a group of her peers.