Ill Communication

nonsense.

Speaking of the devil, Adam 12 walking down there right now, I believe he had Ill Communication as number one, which is what Adam 12 changed his number one pick to a couple of years ago.

Remember when you did that, 12, your big flip? For a number

one Beastie Boys

album? Ill Communication.

I checked.

All right.

Oh, Concrete – yeah, and it also caused a lot of people to think the Concrete Blonde version was the original version, which is a separate frustration I have.

But like this movie is how I got into the Beastie Boys actually because I went down the rabbit hole of like – How is this song so bad? And then through that, I never actually found it, but I did find Ill Communication, which is a

fantastic album.

This is a movie about the Pixies.

But he's interested in something else here.

He's interested in an alternative discourse, right? And it's interesting that his career took off At the same time, in the mid-90s, that we got Wu-Tang Clan's debut, we got Bex Odele, the Beastie Boys' Check Your Head, and Ill Communication.

Because Tarantino, just like Wu-Tang and just like the Beasties, was all about this cut-and-paste style that took inspiration from so-called... trash culture from exploitation films and from other modes of cinematic cheese and then it elevated all those things even if you weren't aware of what he was doing at the time but you were aware of the tone you were aware of how pulp fiction seemed off kilter to the access that you were familiar with and it's there in the music he chooses for these films as well the needle drops In the case of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, I think the needle drops are representative of what was actually popular at the time in 1969.

History has a way of distilling everything into an accepted, simple, recognizable summation that is not exactly representative of what things were actually like.

I don't know.

I, I've gone back and listened to Check Your Head, Ill Communication.

Those albums really hold up, I think.

Um-

... and an instructor of jazz and hip-hop," wow, "at the NYU Clive Davis Institute." I'm not, I'm not surprised at all.

And shout out to Q-Tip's performance, uh, on, um, Ill Communication with the Beastie Boys as well, man.

Yeah, yeah.

'Cause, mm, it's so, so...

No, no, no.

It was on the Ill Communication Tour, bro.

And it was, um, fucking one of the greatest and most traumatic moments of my entire career.

Because I sp-

Do you know what I'm saying? Some of my favourite, I mean, I'm a really big fan of the Beastie Boys, for example.

You go listen to albums like Like Check Your Head or Ill Communication and do all kinds of stuff with their vocals, which I always thought was dope as hell.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, man.

So I was kind of going, oh, yeah, this is cool, you know, which just by coincidence, I'd never really listened to them a huge amount before.

But, you know, at that time, actually, you know what's funny? I remember at the exact same time I listened to Zeppelin and Ill Communication.

was released by Beastie Boys.

So it was Second Coming, Ill Communication, Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, all sorts of stuff.

So into that melting pot went the Second Coming by the Stone Roses.

Do you think that those records are on par? The first record and the second record?