If Not for Me

They asked for one.

But one's from right now, a band called If Not For Me.

They have a song called Lie Awake.

I can't get enough of that song.

The new album comes out October 23rd, 2026.

Not only do we dive into the new album and we talk about the songs that just hook you in like Wind Waker knows how to do, we also talk about how this album essentially is like a diary of what the band had been through the past year, similar if not for me, but...

Wind Waker is consistently always pushing the genres, blending them like crazy.

We talk about how they're always defying expectations and how they're going to continue to do that even as time goes on, like they do with this album.

yeah i i agree i think that's um that's a that's a really good way for looking at it i i mean there's like there's not like a a narrative on the album but i think it just like is a snapshot on like what we were thinking about you know during that time do you know what i mean like oh yeah it's it's it's just it's it's like it's like a diary entry and that's how i kind of see all of our albums you know it's like they're They're like chapters in the lives of us and what we're thinking about and, you know, how we're feeling and sort of the journey that that takes over the course of different albums.

Even if it's not like a concept or anything like that.

Well, now you're bringing this even more full circle, too, because a band that you recently toured with called If Not For Me was on the podcast.

And that's literally what we were talking about with their album that came out this year, too.

So Hayden's awesome.

He's from a band called If Not For Me that's getting really big right now.

And he's been doing our music for pretty much every new song that we've done.

Basically right now with him being the vocal producer, we haven't actually worked together in person yet.