Ice Warrior

And the story that we're doing is Cold War.

Mark Gatiss, the Ice Warrior.

So that'll be interesting.

That's next time.

I've never known such a greenist as you.

That's what Ice Warrior is.

It's double green.

That episode of Blackadder where what's-his-face discovers the great new element of green.

Yeah, Frostgrave as well.

I've never played Frostgrave, but the idea that you would put together a whole terrain set with a snowy theme in mind You know, it might have been, you know, back in the day, somebody might have said, oh, let's do a Valhalla and Ice Warriors themed set.

But, you know, it was never like the big focus, you know, of a big G-Dub push to, you know, let's do a campaign in an ice world.

So I think that kind of when you've got a, a location in mind like that for a game, you know, it really gets your, you know, excitement, gets your juices flowing.

I'm giving them a silly voice.

Uh, are The Ice Warriors two and three.

I kinda go, we can never be friends because, because if, if you, if you want completeness more than you want a flavor that is hi- has been hitherto unavailable to us, uh, you are to me, uh, you know, s- a sh- a shelf sta- a f- a f- a f- a filer rather than a gourmand.

Do you know what [chuckles] I'm saying? Do you know what I mean? I, I'm sure that's a mixed metaphor.

But, but the existence of The Invasion one wouldn't cause the n- the lack of existence of the other stories.

But, uh, uh, nonetheless, it's, it would be natural because the first thing we'd hear, wouldn't it, is there's a missing episode back.

So we'd go, "Oh, well, I want it to be X, Y, or Z." And then if it was Invasion or, or Reign or Ice Warriors or whatever, we'd go, "Oh, it's a, it's a..." Part of us that I, I c- you know, I'd love for this not to be true, but part of me would go, "Oh, it's a shame it's not one of those." But then I'd get over that, and I'd be really excited because anything, any missing episode of Doctor Who would be a delight.

But some would be more delightful than others, even though those ones w- would be great.

It, it-

And it s- it suits them better than it would the Daleks or the Cybermen, or even maybe the Ice Warriors you'd get away with.

They're the only kind of repeat monsters who've been mul-

Mm

Yeah.

You can bring comedy out of the reaction to the characterization, but the characterization itself is too flat.

And, and the Sontarans are an antidote to the Draconians and the Ice Warriors, who are always framed as kind of more complex, noble warrior races.

They have their codes, don't they?

you yeah and then cyberman smash out of like plastic

in the back oh no it was it was from the foam i think coming from the chest of the cyber exactly leader or something whatever it was uh from tune of course um also the same day that the ice warriors was being recorded in the ealing television studio so what do you think of that i know

Was that the foamy one?

Or is that a different Ice Warriors? That was the...

No, it was a different one.

First, yeah, that was in the Ice Planet.

Yeah.

Number five is the Ice Warriors.

Oh, no. Fraser's coming after you now.

He loves

I can remember when Luke Malloy had his own podcast, Lost on Gallifrey, and he used to partner up with his mate Chris.

So Chris was on that journey of watching Doctor Who from an unearthly child right through to survival.

and he um he managed to kind of fight his way through all of those missing episodes that that that we we've got so watched a lot of reconstructions probably listened to a lot of audios uh he managed he managed to get his way all the through through um you know the majority of the 60s he got to the ice warriors and that killed his journey stone dead he um yeah he he got this far and it just stopped him in his tracks and i can totally agree with him and i can't blame him in in any shape form or way you know we've got um You know, this is six episodes, but it feels like 10.

It's

So they used the costume again in the Brain of Morbius.

The creatures that they did, the Mutt, the Ice Warrior, the Pating, Beep the Meep, Yeah, the Slitheen.

It failed to update the costumes in the way that a modern production crew would put its own spin on the costume.

And so they looked really out of place in this production that looked a bit like sort of Chris Chibnall era Doctor Who, given a sort of slightly Hinchcliffe makeover.

But this didn't have anything of a makeover on those elements.

And so that's really stuck out to me as well, that the computer has decided they must be in there, or the fan has decided they must be in there, but nobody has said, yeah, but they wouldn't look quite like that if we were doing them now.

The Mutt, for example, and the Ice Warrior both look particularly out of place because they essentially look like they've been flown in from the mid-1970s.

I think for all my...

on them.

You have one which has an Ironside Dalek, Silence, and a Cybermaster, and the other has the Meep, a Zygon, and an Ice Warrior.

Very cool.

Let's open one of the Zygon ones, because that is different to the ones we opened previously.

Oh my days.

Anita from Joy to the World and Reality War.

Skaldak the Ice Warrior from Cold War.

Amy Pond in the police outfit as well.

Yeah.

Other Ice Warriors.

But, you know,

as Terrence prose, efficient, exciting, and

Yeah.

Near Zoe's time.

There's mention of T-Mat and Ice Warriors and the carcass.

Jamie mentions the land of fiction.