Icaro

I wish I could talk more about this because I don't know the whole process.

I just know that right now they're called Icaros if you want to look them up but they're songs that they learn that they sing during these sessions that guide you through them and it's fascinating it's like they monitor how the energy of the ayahuasca session is going and then they use these songs to guide it sort of where it needs to go

And did you feel the effect of the guidance? Like, would they switch songs? Then, like, your high would change? Or, like...

I...

I had chronic, chronic nausea, absolutely convinced that I was going to shit my pants and couldn't do anything about it.

The only sounds in the hut, there were about 21 of us, the only sounds in the hut were the incredible healers doing chanting chants which is called, they do Icaros, they're called.

They're these spontaneous chants they do which actually interact with the ayahuasca.

And what's happening to you.

I just was going along with it and just felt like I was being dragged.

So anyway, um, the other thing is that we have these songs called Icaros in our ceremonies, and I'm kind of on the facilitation side now, and so I don't ever serve the medicine.

I don't think I ever will.

I think that's, like, you need to spend years and years and years, like, learning and apprenticing.

But I will help, like, if someone is struggling, um, and they call out for help, I can go over and just, like, hold their hand or make sure they're okay.

So we have a lot of, um, we have, like, a four-to-one ratio on that.

And then, and then some of the staff also will sing some of the Icaros.

So anyway, I heard about this dieta.

So just to be clear, like Shipibo, there are exceptions, but generally you go into the jungle and you're working with somebody who's carried this tradition in a good way.

In terms of the Icaros that's sung to people, it's not rehearsed.

It's more like jazz.

It's the closest thing that I can think of as a comparison in our matrix is jazz because you're not doing something that's been rehearsed.

And so, you know, all that stuff is true.

And maybe before we play the song, one more thing to clarify for anyone who hasn't heard the term Icarus before, how would you define that or explain that?

Icaros is Spanish for healing, I believe, like it's specifically a healing song, but it's just a song that is designed for healing.

So