Ian Morris

There isn't anything to be found is what Snodgrass says.

Ian Morris writes, the balance of probability seems to be in favor of a consistent basis to the society of the poems derived from Greece in the eighth century B.C., which would be at the end of the period we've been talking about, the transition to the world of the polis, Homer's own time when he lived and rose.

Finally, Barry Strauss says, ironically, the more Homer exaggerates, the more authentic he is as a representative of the Bronze Age.

So, what do we do? Well, all of these are learned and clever men, but I don't think that they're all equally right.

If they don't beat the likes of the Dock and Sligo, they easily could be going into those last three games staring down the barrel of a ninth place finish.

Do you think? like there is there is smells of 2020 about this even with the stuff with Paddy Barrett going on I know it's been Ian Morris has come out several times and said oh no there was no no trouble in that dressing room in 2020 and we know it's on the record here there is trouble in this dressing room right now you got a manager that's gone in there who's probably how many games has Sligo in this season how many games five so he's won five games Between two clubs.

Between two clubs.

He's had, he's had what, 10 or 11, I think he's had 10 or 11 games in charge of,

We love Joe Thomas enormously.

Ian Morris is someone who's a huge figure in my life.

One of the co-creators.

Yeah.

And that makes it a popular subject for historians to tackle, because you can hang a lot of ideas on it.

Like, Ian Morris, who teaches at Stanford, wrote a book called Why the West Rules for Now, which casts the question in terms of political, military, and economic dominance.

And Victor Davis Hanson made this idea of dominance more explicit in his book on military history, Carnage and Culture, Landmark Battles and the Rise to Western Power, which also offers a pretty straightforward reason why the West became so powerful.

They'd want a lot of wars.

Fukuyama, you'll be surprised to learn, is a political scientist and classicist by training, so it's not that much of a surprise that he finds the roots of the West's preeminence in governance and classic religious thought.

Okay, let's look at one last example of a different approach to this historical question.

That guy Ian Morris, who we talked about earlier, he wrote the book Why the West Rules for Now, he broke down his arguments into a mathematical formula based on four dimensions.

Energy capture, how much humans have been able to use...

But this is where we're now going into sort of how contemplative practice and the traditions of contemplative practice can inform science going beyond the blind spot.

So, uh, there's this great book called the Why the West Rules for Now, and it was, uh, Ian Morris, and he was talking about that there, there were these different cores of civilization.

Now, civilization as a word can be used in, you know, very pejorative terms.

It has been.