Howie Draper

So it's pretty fun.

And the best is, I think, you know, when I'm coaching or I'm out, if I'm power skating, I have guys that are like, "Stacy, I want my son or daughter to come train with you 'cause I remember the kinda player you were, and I want them to, to feel that," right? 'Cause pretty tough, and even in my coaching style, I, I-

Mm-hmm

... try to be tough.

Mm

... semi-private programs, right? So I do different programs.

I have camps that have, you know, roughly, I don't like coaching more than 20 kids at a time.

Yeah.