Howe Caverns

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Have you ever been in Howe Caverns? Have you been to Howe Caverns? Where's

that? Is that Jersey?

Upstate New York? No, it's in New York.

I mean, uh, not particularly.

Uh, we did, I remember when I was young, I grew up in upstate New York, and we went to, I believe it was Howe Caverns, which is just north of Albany there, a little bit further north than there and stuff like that.

And you know, it's, it's a tourist attraction, and they take you down and you go into the caverns to see the stalagmites and the st- stalactites and stuff like that.

But I do remember very distinctly that moment where for the, the tourists, like they turn off the lights and you are in absolute darkness.