Howards' Way

Yeah.

And I think you can kind of fast-forward and think, not just because it's seafaring, but something like Howards Way or The Brothers-

Yes

... are, are, are also, I think, in this idiom.

[laughs]

She's, my mother was adamant she saw Richard and Guy one day on the stairs peeking into a room at Boreham Wood, likely making mischief, back when she was working on Howards Way, but wasn't brave enough to say how much of a fan she was.

Could you confirm firstly if it could have been you for my mother? Well, it could have been us because there was one time when we were working at Elstree, and they were making a series called Grange Hill in the next studio, and we scoped it out and we got hold of some, the keys to the script cupboard.

[laughs]

And I think John D. Collins may have been involved.

So yes, there may have been mischief.

And also I was thinking, um, as you've mentioned Howards Way, that maybe was Howards Way rehearsing over there at, at Elstree.

Might have been.

Yeah.

So, so the sort of people you saw on Howard's Way, but then of course, people who are 20-

And they won't know what Howard is

... won't know what Howard's Way is.

They'll be like, "What's Howard's Way?"

[laughs]

I don't know what Howard's Way is.

You do look a bit like, you look a bit like Ken Masters, Julian.

... tell you that, John F. Kennedy looks like he'll be a good president, doesn't he?

[laughs] Tell you what, well, uh, Howard's Way is looking rather interesting, isn't it? Probably quite gripping.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, okay.

You know what they say about Howard's Way, don't you? Some like it yacht.

[laughs]

That is not the answer.

Do you remember Howard's Way?

Yes.

That was Sunday nights, wasn't it, Howard's Way? Yes.

Yes.

Well,

the

actor Tony Antholt was Charles Freyer in Howard's Way.