Howard Menger

And it is this valiant Thor.

Now, these pictures were taken at Howard Menger's farm, who was a contactee back in the 50s and 60s.

Howard has passed away.

His wife, Connie, who lived in 95, I went and visited with her in Vero Beach many, many years ago.

Right.

He's the one from those original photos that were taken at Howard Menger's backyard.

Wow.

Wow.

And Dr. Frank lived in New Jersey at the time.

A lot of the extraterrestrial contacts were coming out of New Jersey.

Howard Menger was in contact.

with many, many human races throughout our galaxy.

I'll just mention a few real briefly.

There are-- And one case comes from contactee Howard Menger, uh, who wrote a book, From Outer Space to You, about his contacts with human-looking ETs.

He says he met a human-looking ET while recovering in a army tent hospital in Okinawa, uh, during the World War.

And he says later, while in New Jersey, he was having contacts with human-looking ETs who would sometimes travel into town to buy fruits and vegetables and other items and, uh, were absolutely human-looking and could mingle among the local population.

Look at, look at that person, look at what they have to offer, and understand that, well, it's possible that this person has displayed fake degrees on his wall because he is doing so because that is a condition for him to be able to operate and talk about these human-looking extraterrestrials.

And, and if you look at it from the perspective that this is one of the most tightly guarded secrets, the existence of these very highly spiritual human-looking extraterrestrials that have been interacting with us since Eisenhower and even earlier, and that contactees from the very beginning, people like George Adamski, Howard Menger-

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... and so forth, were deliberately targeted, discredited, made to look like hoaxers and scammers and grifters, that that was part of the program to prevent these human-looking extraterrestrials being taken seriously.

Um, however, it's interest...

What, what I found fascinating about some of the UF- early contactees from the 1950s period, like Howard Menger.

Is it Menger? Howard Menger, sorry.

For example, he would, um, so he...

Howard Menger was, he and his brother would like see U- uh, UFOs as kids, um, in, this is Hy- uh, Hybridge, uh, uh, New Jersey.

And but it was...

Howard Menger himself would continue to see these as adults.

But so he would, uh, uh, there's a documentary about him and so he talks about how...

Uh-

When I first got into this, uh, what they call ufology, uh, I found out that to be accepted by the, uh, the, uh, mainstream, you had to, uh, uh, disregard Billy Meier's, uh, Adamski, George Adamski, uh, Howard Menger, and, and various contactees.

But when I started really looking into it, all those guys were telling the truth.

Uh, Billy Meier, I even went on TV and I said it was a fraud, and, and six months later I had to come back and say, "Hey, wait a minute.

And from the get-go, she allied with people like Jacques Vallée, John Alexander, Lou Elizondo, and others that pushed the negative interdimensional UFO threat narrative.

and one of those people that she focused on was also chris bledsoe and he while there are positive aspects to his contact experiences it began in a in a pretty terrifying way with these orbs and his family being ripped apart and or being affected negatively by the orb phenomenon as it was occurring to him and his family and so there were a lot of negative overtones but the contactee material going back to george adamski howard menger orfeo angelucci george van tassel billy meyer so many contactees claiming to have with human-looking extraterrestrials, they were totally ignored.

It had been ignored.

And I get always very suspicious of that because I think if you are a researcher, you're not just going to...