Hollie McNish

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We also have a birthday gift to share with you, a specially commissioned poem for Woman's Hour from the poet, writer and performer Hollie McNish.

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Anita, thank you so much for joining us from London.

We're in Glasgow and our listeners will be with you tomorrow, as will I. That's Anita at 10, as we continue to delve into some of the findings.

Let me turn to Hollie McNish, who is with us.

She's the author of five collections of poetry.