Hippolytus of Rome

Nobody's trying to differentiate or dislocate these books from one another as different kinds of scripture.

Hippolytus in the year 204 writes, a verse-by-verse commentary on Susanna as part of the book of Daniel, which would be a strange thing to do on a book that's spurious or specious or not inspired or not scripture.

Who cares? Why would you write a commentary on it? And yet, he does.

Two more worth thinking about.

If you find all the American Baptist pastors quoting the Deuterocanonicals when you survey their sermons and they all quote them like Scripture, the only conclusion you can draw if there's no caveat, if there's no disclaimer, is they think it's Scripture at least, whether they're right or wrong.

And that's a great, great point.

Yeah, I just want to add something too because you've mentioned that Susanna in the Book of Daniel is mentioned by Irenaeus in 180 and Hippolytus in 204 and Origen in 240 that he's quoting – they're all quoting from the Book of Daniel and the story of Susanna.

And it may not be immediately apparent to some people that Susanna – While Daniel is in all the Protestant Bibles, the part about Susanna is not.

If we may believe Heraclitus, the Ephesian, who says, Hogs wash themselves in mud, and doves in dust.

Hippolytus.

Refutation of all heresies.

9.10. And good and evil are one.

these say that the first principle is water and they are led to this result by things that appear to sense for warmth lives in moisture and dead things wither up and all germs are moist and all nutriment is moist now it is natural that things should be nourished by that from which each has come and water is the first principle of moist nature accordingly they assume that water is the first principle of all things and they assert that the earth rests on water Thales is the first to have set on foot the investigation of nature by the Greeks, although so many others preceded him, in Theophrastus' opinion he so far surpassed them as to cause them to be forgotten.

It is said that he left nothing in writing except a book entitled Nautical Astronomy.

Hippolytus, Philosophumina I.

It is said that Thales of Miletus, one of the seven wise men, was the first to undertake the study of physical philosophy.

And the earliest we could find was 500 years removed from the latest possible composition of the book.

That is Hippolytus, second, third century AD is the first one we could find.

Plenty of people know Daniel, plenty of people know resurrection, but they don't pull them together until half a millennium after the time of Daniel.

So we thought that was intriguing as well.

uh tertullian ad 155 to 220 in a treaties on the soul 55 every soul is determined i'm sorry every soul is detained in a safekeeping in hades until the day of the lord and in chapter 58 he says all souls therefore are shut up within hades uh kind of crazy tertullian if you still think they're in freaking hades but the point here being Many church fathers, which we reference today as authorities for other positions, did not believe we go into heaven upon death.

And the last one, Hippolytus of Rome, A.D. 170 to 235, against Plato on the cause of the universe.

But now we must speak of Hades, in which all souls, both of the righteous and the unrighteous, are detained.

And then later he says, Hades, in which the souls of all the detained until the time of which God has determined.