Hindou Oumarou Ibrahim

And I'd like to start first of all, Sopiko, if we could turn to your first guest, would you like to introduce them, please?

So Hindu Ibrahim is from the Indigenous Peoples Caucus.

Hindu is a Chadian environmental activist and geographer.

She is the coordinator of the Association of Pale Women and Indigenous Peoples of Chad and serves as the co-director of the Pavilion of the World Indigenous Peoples Initiative at COP21, COP22 and COP23.

My first question was, is desertification receiving sufficient global attention?

And The second is the passing from the COP16 presidency to the new COP17 president, who is the foreign affairs woman minister.

So we hope that she will take the women issue, the youth issue, the... issue that people caring more about it.

My impression is, let's see the women leadership to make the convention moving in a positive way.