Hiding in Plain Sight

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Uh, there is Hiding in Plain Sight.

Yeah, Sarah Kendzior, The Invention of Donald Trump and the Erosion of America.

I'm telling you, y- you can, you can crack these books open anywhere, and it's an intriguing story, um, of, uh, how we ended up here, but, uh, a troubling one at the same time.

She's a journalist, anthropologist, researcher, and authority on the erosion of democratic institutions.

She's the best-selling author of The View from Flyover Country, Hiding in Plain Sight, They Knew, Dictatorship is Easier Than You Think, and The Last American Road Trip, a memoir, her latest.

Sarah is the former co-host of the popular political podcast Gaslit Nation and writes at Sarah Kensior's newsletter on Substack.

Sarah, thanks so much for making time to talk with us this evening.

Her books have been fantastic.

She has a great sub stack, a couple of books in particular, Hiding in Plain Sight and They Knew.

She's almost politically clairvoyant and sadly has been unbelievably correct in pressing it.

Sadly, sadly, sadly.

So it can hide in plain sight to steal from you.

and then even when it comes out nothing what what was that like for you when you kind of i mean you're probably because you're not egoic wasn't like see i told you so it's more like you want to go and close the door and cry right

yeah it's it's awful i mean i don't get any satisfaction in being right about this and i knew the extent of it for 10 years you know i think there's a line i wrote in my book hiding in plain sight where i said you know i've come to believe in the devil because of what I witnessed and in hell, because I want comfort, you know, because I don't think that there's going to be accountability in this lifetime.

I have to believe that there's going to be accountability in some other way.

She's a journalist, anthropologist, researcher, and authority on the erosion of democratic institutions.

She's the best-selling author of The View from Flyover Country, Hiding in Plain Sight, They Knew, Dictatorship is Easier Than You Think, and The Last American Road Trip, a memoir, her latest.

Sarah is the former co-host of the popular political podcast Gaslit Nation and writes at Sarah Kensior's newsletter on Substack.

Sarah, thanks so much for making time to talk with us this evening.